• PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This is a hot take.

    Here’s the problem with your hypothesis:

    You’re mixing together people who don’t vote with people publicly advocating not voting. That’s completely unsupported. Let’s see some stats on why people don’t vote. Is it because they don’t have time because they’re working, because they’re uncomfortable with the process, because they’re being lazy? On the other hand, what are the predictors of voting? We know age is a factor, so that would encourage us to think about the time availability question.

    The second part is that the disengagement approach you’re advocating has driven the Democratic Party to the right. The Third Way movement came entirely from seeing Reagan’s engagement numbers. Not voting casts a zero information signal. First, the numbers only move mildly from year to year, and even when they do it tends to come down to the charisma of the candidate, not the policy positions.

    A surprising number of Americans want universal healthcare, support LGBT rights and are against racism, yet vote for Donald Trump or DeSantis because they can get the crowds riled up in the way that policy wonks just don’t.

    I mean, when the republicans did that huge study that found that economic and demographic changes in the US meant they needed to adopt more progressive policies (eg not being openly racist) if they wanted to have a future, the gop said “screw that, we will just depress the vote.”

    So, no, your policy is not evidence-based, and it’s unreasonable. It forces the country to the right. If that’s what you want, go for it.

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      4 months ago

      My hypothesis that democrats immediately leap to russian conspiracy rather than looking for actual reasons?

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          I made a meme claiming democrats call anyone who says they don’t vote a russian conspiracist, you gave a bunch of (likely incorrect, based on the real data) guesses about why people might not vote.

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            Does going on the internet to insult people make you feel better? Maybe if you didn’t try to separate people out into camps and assign negative or positive qualities to those groups based on nothing more than your own ideological bent, but instead had a little chat with people like they were people you would be a little happier. Like, you know, on the inside.

            Regardless, I’d like to see the “real data” that says that the assertions of the person to whom you are responding were incorrect. That would be an interesting read.

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            4 months ago

            So you’re mad that he is taking a serious approach to your meme, but then you’re bringing up data.

            So is this a joke we shouldn’t take seriously? Or should he be looking at the data?

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    4 months ago

    This is a so stupid wannabe rage baiting try lol.

    Looks like the american GOP is getting desperate 😊.

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    If anyone is interested in the actual reasons people give, you’re mostly out of luck because there is precious little research, neither of the major parties seem to care about this demographic, and neither do pollsters for the most part. Here’re the results of some research following the 2020 presidential (based on a fairly small sample).

    Spoiler: It’s not because they don’t have time.