• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    With the debatable exception of Jadzia, all those characters were exclusively shown in heterosexual relationships.

    Rejoined was a great episode.

    • Corgana@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      4 months ago

      all those characters were exclusively shown in heterosexual relationships.

      That’s not exactly evidence against them all being bi

        • Sabazius@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          4 months ago

          Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Bisexuals exist and aren’t always obvious, so “absent evidence to the contrary, that person might be bisexual” is not an extraordinary claim — hell, assuming similar prevalence of bisexuality then as we see now, which is arguably the lower bound given the cultural changes depicted, it’s statistically improbable that there wouldn’t be at least one non-straight person in the main cast.

            • Sabazius@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              4 months ago

              Right, but that’s a completely different thing than you were arguing. The likelihood of a character being queer is a Watsonian question about demographics of a space station, whereas whether it’s plot relevant is a Doylist question about themes and conservation of narrative. And given that Garrick was originally conceived as a queer character and the actor has explicitly stated that he wanted the character to be queer, but Rick Berman insisted that this not be done and instead wrote in a weird love story between him and young girl, I actually think it’s pretty f****** relevant to discussions around the culture of the show.

        • Corgana@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          19
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          4 months ago

          Any character that does not explicitly say they were hetero/homosexual is canonically bi until proven otherwise.

      • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        4 months ago

        While she kissed a girl, it was never portrayed as a lesbian relationship, rather the post reincarnation resumption of earlier straight marriage.

        Did Bashir ever pine after a guy? O’Brien doesn’t count.

        • constantokra@lemmy.one
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          18
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          If you’ve not noticed garak and Bashir… well, it’s worth a rewatch just for that.

          • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            4 months ago

            Garak is a pleasure to watch, and Andrew Robinson said he’s intentionally coded as bi, but he’s not in this photo.

            • constantokra@lemmy.one
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              13
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              Julian has a relationship with garak, and while he’s obviously a bit confused about what it is it’s pretty evident garak is not.

        • Corgana@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          While she kissed a girl, it was never portrayed as a lesbian relationship

          That’s what I told grandma when she walked in on me and Jenny Davis

        • v_krishna@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          4 months ago

          Dang I know he was just a simple tailor but such shade as to ignore him entirely?

        • Zorque@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          4 months ago

          Their genders were never a consideration as an obstacle either, though.

          So while neither might have been gay or even bi… I’d give more credence to poly over anything. “Whatever works!”

        • optissima@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          4 months ago

          Did Bashir ever pine after a guy? O’Brien doesn’t count.

          Lmao yeah lets just throw away evidence.

        • unalivejoy@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          rather the post reincarnation resumption of earlier straight marriage.

          That makes it trans, which still counts.