really leaning hard into the cosmic horror and I fuckin love it
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It’s good, I love Jody foster, Navarro is a great actress, qavvik is a great character. It still suffers from some pretty clumsy writing though. No one in the town or the police force generally seems to notice that 6 people died in a horrifying mass murder/accident. There’s a lot of just rolling with it going on.
I am enjoying it though
I mean the police being dumbasses seem accurate lol. Though I imagine people would be livid if their families were gone.
Sure, but none of the dead researchers had any connection to the nearby community.
They do kinda cover that by saying the scientists were doing something secret and kept themselves separate, so there is a bit of an “out” for why none of their families have noticed.
It’s not at all perfect because the prologue shows them making videos for social media, so they clearly do have regular contact to the outer world
Been hearing mixed opinions about it what’s that about
Not seen it but my impression is some viewers are upset the new one seems to be hinting at supernatural stuff actually happening, rather than the “cosmic horror” of s1 being rust’s broken self trying to make sense of depravity under late capitalism (ie hallucinatory, allegory)
Actually the indigenous women weren’t victims of systemic racism, it would Cthulhu
Yah know it could be both
Honestly I think most of the stuff this season is hallucinatory too.
Same, I can see it taking a turn to how the mine has literally poisoned everyone and indigenous lore is fueling some of the hysteria ‘forming’ the hallucinations.
Here for it if that’s the case, need more media about ecological impacts of capitalism
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Yeah honestly pure spooky is something i miss
it stars a lot of women, many of whom are indigenous, and is really about the plight of the native women in the area.
so basically misogyny
I’ve been enjoying it. I could maybe make some minor criticisms. Honestly, i hesitate to say anything definitive until I’ve seen the whole thing, because seeing the full thing might reverse those.
The loudest critisms seem to be a lot of misogyny. Like every detevtive in noir and on True Detective in particular is an asshole, but because they’re women now people are flipping out. Also this season has a different show runner (who is also a women) and thst seems to be a problem for some people, including the old show runner who still gets an executive producer credit and profits off it, but feels compeled to complain himself
I’m not that far in, but while I’m overall enjoying it, it feel a bit less tight than seasons 1 and 3. I’m seeing more clique tropes (dude with a mail order bride? Really? In 2024?), scenes that go on a bit too long, and it’s wearing its influence on its sleeve, literally they have a DVD of The Thing on a shelf in one shot. Also it’s too early to call it but I think it’s, unintentionally or not, gonna have a similar twist to the video game Penumbra (don’t look up for spoilers). Oh yeah The Terror too.
The supernatural stuff being more blatant isn’t inherently bad but I feel like it could easily go in a really stupid direction fast. Plus it does kind of clash with the themes of the previous seasons.
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Some viewers dont like the writing, other viewers dont like the fact that its about a female version of Rust and are using the fact that others don’t like the writing to shit all over it. They will complain about “pointless” scenes and point to the flashback where Navarro meets the midwife who is busy delivering a baby. Or they will complain its “trying til had to be political” because its touching on real world issues (as opposed to the other seasons apparently). Others just don’t like the writing - The dialogue is kinda stilted.
Others are caught up in the mood of hating on New Thing and are now looking for flaws everywhere. These people are dense as fuck and will point out things as plotholes, despite those things being explained.
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:yea: but Rust is edgy cool gritty guy so it’s different
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i’ve been really enjoying it, and like the creepy tone and pacing. I shoudn’t have been, but I was kind of surprised that it’s getting a lot of hate. It’s really leaning into the supernatural, which the other seasons hinted at or left ambiguous, so I can get being put off by that, I guess. But people are also trashing it because Jody Foster plays an asshole cop, or they have a problem with Navarro. All the cops in the show in every season are kind of jerks. I guess since the main cops in this season are female a lot of people can’t self-insert themselves into the “bad-ass cop who takes no shit and fucks a lot” characters and don’t enjoy it as much? A lot of the complaints seem wierd and nitpicky to me.
Jody foster is playing female McNulty and everybody loved McNulty.
I’ve never watched an episode of True Detective cause I assumed it was true crime shit. But we fot cosmic horror and Jody Foster being McNulty? Imma download this rn
The first season is lightning in a bottle, but the others are good too. They all involve crime against children FYI, lots of grim stuff
I was the same but watched it randomly at one point. It really shows how shitty cops are while still having them as the protagonist
Yeah I’ve seen people complain about Navarro’s introduction trying “too hard” to make her badass by making her “too good” at fighting, having her fuck a lot and give no fucks.
Meanwhile Rust in season 1 was an undercover biker with insane combat skills and he fucked a lot and took no fucks, but that was fine because it made sense for the character or was realistic or whatever loltrying “too hard” to make her badass by making her “too good” at fighting
Kali Ries is a professional boxer, lol.
Yeah it’s silly lol, especially because every season has had a “badass fighter” detective and no one batted an eye, but suddenly the actor is an actual badass fighter and it’s an issue
They always do that. A 150lb woman can’t 1v1 a 200lb guy because it’s not realistic. But then a 170lb guy can 1v1 a 250lb guy because of the male bone structure and skull shape and hip ratio or some other caliper-brained shit.
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But they very clearly don’t make Navarro out to be “average”. She’s buff, she’s mean and she’s been working in a male dominated environment for years where she has had to solve shit with physical force.
A later episode shows she shirks away from a guy she previously beat up, because he is now sober and with a friend. Her martial prowess is very realistically portrayed. They more or less did it as a David v Goliath thing. She knocks down a huge dude because he’s drunk and he doesn’t see it comingRemoved by mod
i wish there was a good written resource compiling the connections between the seasons because there seems to be a throughline between season 1 & 4 but i dont wana rewatch hours of tv or a baseless “theories” youtube content mill. just tell me why the swirly doo is the same bro
Rusts dad is a ghost that leads rusts mom to a pile o’ corpses.
The tuttles are now a megacorp financing icedrilling.
The weird spirally thingy is back everywhere.
It takes place in an Alaskan village in the period where rust says he was in Alaska.
Do you have to have seen season 2 or 3?
All the seasons are completely seperate. Which is good because season 2 is like unwatchably bad according to everyone lol
Just like the wire, season 2 was disliked because it was too different. It’s a completely fine season. Does some Epstein shit before that was mainstream.
I really like season 2 of the wire. I also like season 2 of true detective. Coincidence?
Probably yeah.
nah reddit hates the new season more so they’re now saying “wow s2 was actually good”
but season 2 was always good, and i’ll die on that hill.
but season 2 was always good, and i’ll die on that hill.
I will join you on that hill comrade
everyone was just mad it wasn’t season 1, and it was never supposed to be!! afaik the creator said each season would be independent and be a different style, with season 2 being a greek tragedy! people really just want the same thing over and over and over.
I like season 2 because i really love noir and its just pure noir. Nothing could have lived up to season 1, and 2 was a big departure which i think is why it gets the level of hate it does.
Might have to watch if it’s like a noir
I really like it too. The dialogue is kinda wack at times, and I’m struggling with wether it actually is bad dialogue or I’m just wearing nostalgia-glasses for season 1 (the Tinder/“I listen” convo was so bad it made me laugh).
The plot is fucking great tho, I love the supernatural elements coming in and one of the dead people has the same name as one of my ex’s parents, which is very funny. Hadn’t thought about them in years, but shot them a quick text and we laughed about it together.
I love the indigenous representation. I love the mystery. I love that the original showrunner is salty that someone else is doing the show and they’re doing the thing people wanted him to do, but he never did (leaned into the cosmic horror stuff).
Do you have any theories?
I think- the crab lady with missing fingers might have killed some of the people. She’s missing her fingers, just like that local legend.
- The scientists found some weird bacteria or chemical that causes hallucinations, and now the mining company has drilled into the place where that thing is, and it is seeping into the water causing mass hallucinations.
- The first Nations cop has a split personality. She has a lot in common with the legend of (I think) Sedna - including dating a guy called Qavvik.
The scientists found some weird bacteria or chemical that causes hallucinations, and now the mining company has drilled into the place where that thing is, and it is seeping into the water causing mass hallucinations.
that’s my guess. my partner is like “NOOO IT’S MAGIC STOP NOOO”
I have real beef with the people that take issue with the supernatural elements, when there’s (as of yet) plausible explanations for all of it.
“How come rust cohles ghost dad showed them the way to the corpses?”
Gee I don’t know, THATS THE FUCKING MYSTERY. Imagine watching a detective show and being mad that not everything is explained immediately.if it is hallucinations they’re going to affect people in different ways! rose sees her dead husband, the native women hear the voices of their ancestors out on the ice, like people’s given religious/spiritual beliefs will actively affect what they see when they hallucinate. i haven’t watched ep 4 yet (i know what happens) but i’m really excited for the last two!
She’s not sedna. If she’s sedna then they needed to ask any of the Inuits on set what was up. At best her treatment of her sister is an analogue to the way the angakkoq cares for the ocean goddess and washes away the filth left by others.
I’m not super well-versed in Inuit folklore, so thanks!
Id just looked into it a bit some time ago, and then the crablady with the missing fingers made me think of Sedna and my mind got spinning from there - Cut off by an abusive father, married a dog (Qavvik cares for dogs and his name is similar to the Inuit kavik for wolverine, a stretch I know), she’s a loner, she has a weird thing with yhat boat in episode 3…I see now that It sounds dumb when I write it out
The missing fingers definitely says ocean goddess. But the main character has a caring role in which she quite literally grooms (Not in the negative meaning) her sister as a response to outside influence. Which screams angakkoq if we’re looking at ocean goddess imagery. She herself isn’t mutilated, nor does she provide for the town materially.
The dog connection is clever, but I don’t know if she marries a dog in the inupiat version of the tale. Tbh my only knowledge of the tale is as Arnaqquassaaq.
Hey thanks so much for the response! It’s all very interesting. What do you make of her not knowing her own name?
Wasn’t the book written by Italian “Kill Yourself Now” Communistman?
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Anybody know a good free streaming site that has this?
I use lookmovie2.to or blixz.to (<-currently giving me a cloudflare error tho)
Do you want a torrent tracker invite? If you can seed I’ll send you one
The acting has been pretty solid so far. It’s got a lot of elements in common with The Thing which is pretty fun.
You literally see a DVD copy of The Thing in the first episode lol
Since there are only 6 episodes it seems, I’ve been trying to make the song with the numbers fit as a description for each episode. I think it’s lined up decently this far especially since it goes to 7 and that was about a mystery
song with the numbers?
https://genius.com/The-unthanks-magpie-lyrics
It’s probably hair brained and so broad anything in an episode could qualify each one, but I’m having fun with it
Anyone have a link?
Flixwave.to has worked fine for me
This comment is mostly just a rant about Ligotti and has next to nothing to do with True Detective. Also if you try to debate me or disagree with me I will actually try and kill you, I am not here to have my psyche damaged by weird pessimistic debate bros who fetishize my lack of mental health.
I am genuinely confused why people enjoy or even tolerate Ligotti, beyond the venting power of acknowledging a completely hopeless universe. But to outright state this as fact, to make one’s own goals the eradication of all life but then treat their life after reading as if that is not their goal at all, is completely alien to me. It confuses and deeply concerns me that we even entertain these concepts as anything more than, at best, a form of extreme venting, and at worst, a kind of malevolent harm done to those who are already unstable.
What kind of sociopath reads, “LIFE IS MALIGNANTLY USELESS”, and thinks “yes, how inspiring, I will now go spend the rest of my day at work”? Because that is the exact kind of person who is able to read Ligotti’s books and then go on with their life as normal.
It’s fundamentally offensive to me, as someone who has struggled with depression, anxiety, and has experienced the echoing effects of suicide, for someone who has spent pages of text celebrating those conditions as fundamentally more aware or correct, to be lauded with praise and support.
Maybe he’s right and we should not exist. But then you should commit to it and not be a passive-aggressive asshole who turns around and acts like you don’t believe that!
There is a kind of insidious capitalist realism to it all, a belief that our existential suffering is some sort of fundamental if the human psyche and not a product of social forces, that even of Ligotti himself does not think so, lets every social evil committed by mankind off the hook as merely a slightly worse version of a bad situation
