"This change is a result of the DMA’s requirements, and means that EU users will be confronted with a list of default browsers before they have the opportunity to understand the options available to them,” the company says. “The screen also interrupts EU users’ experience the first time they open Safari intending to navigate to a webpage.”
lol Apple is throwing a tantrum
That’s just Apple’s default state.
That was always a bullshit move by Apple and crippled the Firefox product in an unacceptable and cartel law questionable dimension. MS had a Monopoly on IE, by giving advantages binding it to the OS? Apple did the exact same thing on iOS with Safari.
The problem is that the US doesn’t necessarily regulate anticompetitive behavior if the company has not achieved a monopoly. Microsoft pretty much had one at the time so they were exposed. Our regulatory regime is not designed to protect us from the tech oligopoly
USB C, 3rd party app installing, free browser engine and easly removable batteries in 3 years. Iphone suddenly becomes an amazing option
In eu. Its amazing what happens when legislation works.
not amazing, only closer to what android already was for years
We slowly fix problems below and above the OS. But there is very much left to do in the OS itself, like no access to drivers or any low-level interfaces.
Ok, as an American web developer how do I test sites in Firefox on iOS?
put a big banner for iOS users telling them that apple doesn’t let you test it, and that any complaints should be forwarded to apple
Didn’t even think about that haha.
I guess the best you could realistically do would be to adhere to web standards (not Chrome standards) and use desktop Firefox or Firefox on Android for testing as they should be the same internally as the hypothetical iOS port.
You don’t and that’s a feature for Apple.
It’ll fall on deaf ears but complain as an ios dev to apple
Same way you test on Safari if you don’t have a Mac, I guess. (i.e. not at all, or with the same rendering engine on a different device and hoping it is similar enough, or via a service like Browserstack.)
I would subscribe to this question if I could.
Interesting question. If a binary is available you can sideload already, you’d have to put the phone in Developer Mode and use either XCode or one of the 3rd party tools for macos or Windows to install it. Main question is how easy it’d be to find a trustable official Mozilla binary.
Fuck Apple.
Article talks about how Chrome will be happening almost immediately and I’m like… why? Why would you switch to Chrome when you know it’s going to reduce your ability to keep things private. Firefox will be a different story hopefully, but even then it will be interesting to see if it can pass the fingerprint test finally on an iPhone. (Currently nothing can.)
People use chrome because they’re used to chrome (and because it has the best website compatibility thanks to its near monopoly). And most people sadly don’t care about their privacy.
I personally try to use as little Google products as I can and am happy using a mixture of Safari and Firefox (depending on the platform)
Awesome really hope this spreads to other regions.
This is very bittersweet living in the UK. But still obligatory fuck Apple.
I always figured that brexit is going to be a big kick in the balls on the long run
Why not come back? :D
zero reason ever for any piece of technology to know where i live and make my experience worse because of it
Are you fucking kidding me?
As soon as I get that visa, I’m running to the EU. I don’t feel like dealing with more freedom that only the EU can get, I don’t feel like being jealous at them anymore, I might as well join them.
not with the current “shift to the right” we’re doing. these parties will do and say anything to get into power and foreigners out of their country.
but me and many other average citizens would very much like to welcome you with open arms.
Yeah, some politicians are straight up weird.
In their defense, though, some immigrants are straight up weird (keyword: SOME).
Honestly, I’m the kind of future immigrant who hates his country with an absolute passion and refuses to be patriotic or nationalistic. I literally cannot integrate into my own society. Also, criminalization of LGBT rights. I just gotta mention that.
The EU really does feel like a great place to be in.
on the ‘area to exist in’ list, europe definetely ranks very high.
the high cost of living is definetely a thing to consider, but wages are pretty fair if you learn a specific profession and you get pretty good healthcare by default.
plus almost everyone under 60ish years of age speaks english to a degree, so you can bridge the gap of learning the local language pretty well.
oh yeah and we take human rights at least more seriously than the US of course.
Good for me.
Come to the dark side! We have GDPR and we’ll get browser choice in iOS soon (because as much as I hate having my software freedom being taken away, iOS is the superior experience if you don’t have time to tweak everything. This is coming from someone who’s had a custom ROM on every single one of their Android phones).
You also can’t be fired without cause in I believe most EU countries, definitely not in mine (Estonia).
I have literally never used GDPR in my life because whenever my phone claims to use it (last time that happened was with my old iPhone 4), it basically means that there’s no internet at all. I’m pretty sure that’s just a weird thing with my country. We don’t even have 5G yet.
Also, wait, you can actually get fired without cause outside of the EU? Why would anyone have the balls to do that??
…I think you’re confusing GDPR and GPRS? Unless I’m being whooshed here
Yep, I definitely did that.
I have literally never used GDPR in my life because whenever my phone claims to use it (last time that happened was with my old iPhone 4), it basically means that there’s no internet at all. I’m pretty sure that’s just a weird thing with my country. We don’t even have 5G yet.
Also, wait, you can actually get fired without cause outside of the EU? Why would anyone have the balls to do that??
I wonder how long it will take for Mozilla to make a proper iOS version. I suspect that Apple didn’t give them any notice.
They didn’t have to. The EU regulations have been public for a while now, the only question was how Apple was going to comply.
True, but I don’t think a fund limited organisation like Mozilla is going to spend a lot of money and time on a maybe.
Regulations are not "maybe"s.
The regulations outright stated that it has to be allowed. So they knew it was going to be allowed on iOS. Like I said, the only question was how: Mozilla didn’t know what the mechanisms made by Apple to make this work would look like, but that can be worked out fairly easily later, once they have a working build.
they’re already in the process for almost a year now. they anticipated the ruling and didn’t wait for apple’s statement.
Thanks.
So, this could be a dumb question, but will IPAs have this region-locking?
Like, can I use something like AltStore to use the EU version of Firefox?
Pretty sure it’s the OS that would be different, and likely hardware-locked or some other kind of region verification.
If you have the ipa you can sideload it via AltStore or similar unless Mozilla does something stupid
Jailbreaking finally has utility again.
Do you think someone will figure out a jail break to unlock EU only features?
Honestly, it’s possible. A lack of incentive is half of the issue, the other half is the lack of talent working on a jailbreak because the community is full of the most maddeningly annoying children to have ever been birthed. It’s much more profitable to sell the increasingly complex bugs than to use them. If the jailbreak community manages to avoid doxxing, threatening, or disparaging a major dev for a few months, something might eventually come out.
This is why I I’m not a iperson
Exactly. I hate being told how to use my devices
You’re holding it wrong ™️
