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it kinda rules that Corey is out here doing marxian historical analysis of the Star War
the CIS were the imperial periphery that had its liberation movements appropriated by corporate filibustero interests
is that what he says? i didn’t watch the video just thought the title/thumbnail was funny
or is that your analysis, in which case impressive. my main source of star wars analysis is a more civilized age, i haven’t actually watched the clone wars since it was airing
nah he actually applies world-system analysis and legal frameworks of succession as well as indigenous rights. it’s not like a manifesto or anything but it impresses me because decent analysis out of the contradictory lib-brained mess of star wars is blood from a stone
nice. the podcast i mentioned does the same sort of thing, with an explicitly leftist bent
The prequels should have been a TV series and J Micheal Strazynski (Babylon 5 creator and sole writer for the best 2 seasons) should have been put in charge of making Lucas’s vague ideas into something. The story doesn’t fit the star wars trilogy format it was forced into, George was basically forced to write them himself even though he knew he was bad at it . There’s a diamond deep deep deep deep deep deep in that rough. It just needed to be Andor mode and not Return of the Jedi mode to make it effective
i kind of disagree, those movies could’ve been polished with a better team and tempered lucas-ian influence, but a TV show isn’t necessarily the right remedy. the prequels were clearly structured in a parallel to the OG’s, and if they simply didn’t suck it might’ve been neat. economically, movies are more straightforward too, it wouldn’t be nearly as easy to put those ridiculously indulgent battles (one of the few redeeming qualities of the prequels) into a more stretched out budget with less definite returns.
If they wee gonna be films the story needs to be film trilogy length, which it clearly wasn’t since the movies made no sense and Star Wars Guys are hyped to this day a mid cartoon filled the gaps. I also hate the ridiculously indulgent battles cause they’re way too visually busy ruining any sense of storytelling and making it look like someone else playing a ps3 game. I will forever be a practical effects snob, I love miniatures, figuring how effects shots worked in movies and how to replicate them, the fact you often got to fuck around with explosives and all that since I was a little kid, then when I became a teenager everything became cgi and it sucks. There’s no wonder to special effects, they just made a dmall town of people work really hard on computers for nothing. Either do the politcal drama well as a series or make the whole story different for movies. I have a 3 movie prequel treatment for the nerds out there from when I gave a shit that I could recall the broad strokes of. They went for the middle and missed the exhaust port cause computer screen instead of the force or whatever, allegories
the shocking thing about the prequels is how much still was practical, and how well the cgi integrated with it—there’s movies that came out this year with less legit looking cgi than the phantom menace. in sharp contrast to the original series cg-editions lol.
lucas was always a huge effects-head, i think that’s one of the strengths of the OT, the character writing not being as bad grounds the audience but then there’s exploding planets, lazer dog-fights & lazer samurai battles. taking out the bombastic you can still make a good star war (andor), but i think something would be lost. at least in a main line capital-S Star War.
the story needs to be film trilogy length
yeah but the core of 1 person’s arc, even from childhood fits fine in one film. Lucas essentially had 2 films worth of wiggle room to contextualize that one guy’s story in politics, battles, and worldbuilding, but there’s soooo much waste.
Have you seen the behind the scenes to the prequels? Next to nothing is practical except sometimes in episode 1. It’s blue screen for days. Especially compared to other films st the time it was absolutely exorbitant with cg. Look at the prequels compared to lord of the rings. Regardless you could still.hafe battles and action, it’s a full scale war story but the story of that war can’t just be some but not enough events leading up for it to make sense, the inciting incident and the ending. Making the whole prequel trilogy about Darth Vader was a mistake from the start and letting the allure the character had on the real world affect the world building. In the OT he was important to Luke but to everyone else he was just like…the emperor’s really scary right hand guy. He was part of a larger world
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If it’s gotta be a film trilogy and be less andor mire rotj, focus less on anakin, he’s there and a major character but Obi Wan is the main. The first episode is obi Wan and his new apprenric Anakin doing some jedi bullshit and discover a threat! Some weird aliens thst can clone themselves and be basically an unlimited army are a-comin! The republic reacts to this crisis, gives Palpatine the emergency powers, this clone army is relentless and eventually society becomes more and more militarized and people are drafted into being storm troopers, politcal control increases etc. The clones run dry, the empire is now a thing without anyone really noticing it happened. Maybe Palpatine orchestrated the clones maybe he didn’t, doesn’t matter much. Anakin goes dark side somewhere over the course of this but by the end circumstances have led to the jedi being pretty dark as well during the war, he just didn’t let it go. The remaining jedi wh ogot their shit back together after the war are then mostly killed by Vader. Add a compelling cast that gels as well as the OT and add their personal stories and that pretty much fills out three films.
i accidentally deleted my wip reply: tldr, War and Peace proves a big expensive setpiece-y movie series can be good, Lucas had a unique opportunity (having more money than god) to direct such a project. the fucking writing and story sucked. i don’t like the ‘darth vader lifestory’ premise either, it just wasn’t an unworkable idea
the clones being the bad guys was the ‘original’ premise of the Clone War in novelizations that’s some deep lore you’re on
Cis were the good guys tbh, they weren’t making a billion copies of the same guy to torture
The Trade Federation The Intergalactic Banking Clan The Commerce Guild The Corporate Alliance
The Techno UnionI can hear the dubstep
I can’t hear a damn thing
to be fair to the republic, they didn’t make all thos clones so they could torture them. they made all the clones so they could have slaves, the torture was incidental
Depends on if you think droids are guys, and I think they are
its my understanding that the war droids have a number of servers broadcasting to each unit, so the ‘mind’ of a droid is never destroyed. all the war droids have big antennas and stuff, if they ever lose connection they just stop working
That was before/during Episode 1, hence why Anakin blowing up the droid control ship shut down all the droids on the planet.
After that the CIS “fixed” the problem by also giving the droids a rudimentary local intelligence. Can’t remember if they still take orders from a central source in optimal conditions, but yeah…
So once based, but Anakin made them evil, got it
that dude’s no good, very bad folks!
Many people have been saying this
Wait what? They do? Cause it’s demonstrably proven in the films and clone wars tv series that to communicate orders in battle they do so verbally. Which also makes that communication thing anakin blows up seem odd. Actually yeah, come to think of it mid post. It’s both. Star Wars is silly as hell.
Droids are guys. Even the battle droids show clear signs of being guys. Star Wars droids are Futurama robots.
Roberto the stabby robot would have made a fantastic assassin droid. In fact, someone should make a mod for the games that adds his voice lines
Hedonism Droid being like a British colonial general sipping gin
A lot of members were corporations, the trade federation did the Naboo thing cause they were pissed that a law was passed making the outer rim no longer an unregulated free trade zone and went full ancap insurgent. It’s a mix of planets coming in their as well, but the fenersl vibe of the organization is libertarian as hell. The motivation of the trade federation really really should have been in the phantom meanie. I observe star wars and its fans like Diane Fossy or Jane Goodall with Gorillas except they double as the poachers that will kill me. But yeah, the Clone Wars politically is basically is Joe Biden and Donald Trump genuinely started an all out civil war
Remember when there were no good guys in the war and yet the republic was somehow the heroes everytime?
There were heroes on all sides. On all sides.
Droid slave rebellion now
Clone Wars would have been better if they kept the 1930s newsreel voice narrating the full episodes, let it show you’re seeing propaganda. Put me in charge of Star wars, I’d make it so good you’d probably go blind. I like the first movie and Andor, upon a recent reestch, Empire is kinda mid in terms of pacing and is the first step in star wars being the magic space wizards story and not the Vietnam War parallel. Andor feels like if they decided to release a prequel instead after the first movie.
Let’s goooo
Just bought this
Sebulba was fucking cool
