• Lugh@futurology.todayOPM
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    10 months ago

    I often hear people say there is no need to worry about robots taking jobs, as automation has always done that, but new jobs have been created. The problem with that line of thought is - what happens when AI & Robots can do all the new jobs too? They’ll be much cheaper. What business is going to survive paying human wages (+health +social security contributions, etc) - when another business can do the same with robots/AI for pennies?

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      10 months ago

      At that point we’ll finally have to give up on capitalism, we’ll employ a UBI for everyone and live like a retired Picard.

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          10 months ago

          You’d be better off asking Gene Roddenberry that. But TNG made it look awesome.

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          10 months ago

          It bugged me the Raffi was depicted living in a trailer in the middle of nowhere in Picard, like she had been impoverished by getting kicked out of Starfleet, and complains about Picard having a nicer place. That’s not how shit is supposed to work in that world.

          Postscarcity would mean that everyone could live in fancy vineyard if they wanted, and Picard just happens to have one with a personal history.

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      10 months ago

      At that point the working class gets so hungry that we wage a total war for our survival against the wealthy. Or we get propaganda and bread and circuses sufficient to keep us barely away from it

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        10 months ago

        we wage a total war for our survival against the wealthy

        That seems very dramatic. I wonder if the Covid pandemic is a more realistic example of how things will play out. It’s amazing how in the space of only several weeks in March-April 2020 the whole planet changed so dramatically, and yet in such a calm, orderly fashion.

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        10 months ago

        Or we get propaganda and bread and circuses sufficient to keep us barely away from it

        “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

        –Frederick Douglas

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      10 months ago

      I think that absolutely is the point of transition. Making a few jobs obsolete is progress, making them all obsolete is new and uncharted territory.