Unfortunately there’s no established rule book on how kids should deal with devices and denying them entirely often alienates them from their peers. I push my kids to use creative apps. Educational apps are nice but those have always had a knack for seeming like adult propaganda to trick you into learning in your downtime. But drawing, animation, video editing, writing, etc? All full of great free apps that will occupy their attention for hours and are still way easier to disengage from than, say, Roblox. It feels less like a vice to yank them away from and more like a cultivation of hobbies to balance out their activities. My oldest is extremely physically active and loves playing outside on their own despite having intense ADHD that would stereotypically have them glued to a device. They also create fan fiction, write original comics, and draw constantly. A lot of that is on the iPad.