Its the only thing making is a good choice, while people choose Brave, TorBrowser or Librewolf instead.
Come and join the discussion.
Firefox needs to have some courage. Get rid of all those fake funding by Ad companies. Block Ads and trackers by default. Actually. Dont use damn Google as that contract will run out anyways.
Chrome is the Google browser. Firefox simply offering nothing more (on the outside) than it.
What do you think? Do you use Firefox out of the Box? Or another browser?
Did you just group Brave with LibreWolf and Tor Browser lol
Yup because they are all privacy hardened out of the Box.
Can’t agree with you on Brave. You’re putting a lot of trust in a for profit company with no real transparency or accountability mechanism.
Mozilla needs funding. By taking money from Google and DuckDuckGo specifically for search it allows Firefox to remain independent and the software it produces is underpins lots of other even more independent privacy respecting software.
The eco system around Firefox needs Firefox to survive. Unless a better funding source comes along Firefox would be in jeopardy. Having. Said that Thunderbird has been successfully turned around due to a well run community pursuing donations and volunteers.
It would also be good if countries stumped up some of the funding Mozilla and other crucial open source projects like Linux need, to maintain a strong software ecosystem. Similar to how many European countries fund national broadcasters to maintain media diversity.
this is the (un)fortunate reality.
unfortunate in that keeping a modern browser up to date is a serious task when you need to compete with the agenda and scale of google etc
fortunate in that its a relatively simple solution, the community needs to fund the software.
its tough though as i can imagine if they pulled the kind of popup shit wikipedia does, it will just drive people away. what people don’t realise ofc is that with chrome you are paying for it (with your data), but for some reason they’re not viewed in the equivalent light.
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LibreWolf and the Tor browser would not exist as they do today if Mozilla was not taking money from Google and DuckDuckGo and all those ad companies to develop Firefox as free open source software that could be forked by privacy-forward groups.
So sure, it would be nice if Mozilla made a privacy-focused Firefox version natively, but if a handful of concessions (that I can continue to turn off) are what it takes to have a performant, full-featured, modern FOSS web browser, I’ll take that deal.
I’ll emphasise that the “handful of concessions” are concessions to usability, not to having to share data with Google or DuckDuckGo. Firefox is still an incredibly private browser, especially if you consider the rest of the landscape.
Excuse me, you can’t simply have a nuanced and fact based opinion on the internet.
360° turn?
True. But lets stay at the content
Used to use arkenfox, then switched to LibreWolf. Eventually switched back to Firefox w/ Betterfox cuz i got annoyed with some websites and QR codes breaking
QR codes breaking??
What is betterfox?
You can check out Betterfox here, its a user.js file that focuses having a balance between privacy and convenience (with less website breakage cuz it’s not as strict like something like arkenfox)
it could be me, but I think your link is broken.
Hmm, its the correct site probably not approved to their walled garden yet
I’m OK with a custom script editing Firefox after install. As long as Google supplies them money they shouldn’t budge at all. Yes, maybe they could be a bit more directed, but the day Google doesn’t want to fund them anymore is the day we’re royally screwed.
Do what you’re doing FF, just maybe be more determined in your actions.
Havent you heard that Google will probably not pay Firefox again? Their contract is soon over.
Once this happens, they have to really offer different arguments, and ootb privacy is not currently one of them.
I understand that speed etc is important. But it seems Firefox is worse here, as “google caching everything” will always be faster. In Chrome and Edge I think the search engines always load in the background to show results so blazingly fast. Like 5 seconds on FF, 1s on Chrome both Google.
Its obvious
How are they going to get any funding from now on?
Its not clear if it ends, but if, then well. My post.
All this “I like Firefox because it allows me to use Librewolf” makes no sense here. It needs to be THE browser people donate to, because it actually does what people need.
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Lol.
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GUI switch with a dialog “I understand possible consequences and can always use a different mode”.
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Change the icons? Lol?
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Is Firefox blocking tracker by default?
Some. But it loads all the bullshit Javascript and doesnt have Ublock preinstalled.
Also the security mode is set to “useless” by default. I only know one site, ojogos.com.br a stupid popup ad-to-play website that wont run on secure Firefox settings
without javascript you can’t use internet
You can use sites perfectly without facebook tracking javascript though…
Noscript is selective, thats the point
Totally true, thats the reason why Vanadium etc. are useless. No JS means nothing working often
@Pantherina Can’t read https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/firefox-needs-a-drastic-change-privacy-by-default/idi-p/44347
It’s been deleted? What was the original post?
I have no idea, maybe its not active yet or only for logged in users? I checked the link lots of times, MozillaConnect is weird
The problem I see is that if they get too idealistic/absolutist, they will end up just like those examples you mentioned (Brave, TorBrowser, Librewolf); less successful.
I dont think Brave is unsuccessful, its simply a bit “shady” with their monetization model.
