The DWP have published the results of a survey on the public’s attitudes to a worrying list of new powers it is considering acquiring, allegedly in order to combat fraud, error and debt in the benefits system.

The proposed new powers include:

  • Trained DWP investigators having arrest powers
  • Trained DWP investigators having search and seizure powers
  • Collecting information about where claimants are spending money
  • Collecting banking information as soon as fraud is suspected, rather than waiting for a criminal investigation
  • Asking banks to share information about accounts which look like someone may be committing fraud
  • Government organisations sharing data with DWP about claimants

The DWP research claims to show that a majority of the public were in favour of every one of these measures being introduced.

Even amongst a group of claimants, the DWP claim, more people considered the powers acceptable than found them unacceptable, with the exception of collecting information about where claimants are spending money.

Given the levels of incompetence, data loss and unaccountability at the DWP, the possibility that staff could arrest claimants and seize their possessions is likely to alarm many readers.

Equally, the idea that the DWP could begin examining bank accounts and looking at how a claimant is spending their money merely because the they suspect fraud is a cause for real concern.

With the department increasingly relying on AI and algorithms they don’t fully understand to detect fraud, the possibility of claimants being wrongfully arrested and facing long and poorly resourced investigations seems real.

No legislation has yet been put forward by the DWP and many will hope that a general election intervenes and that these proposals never become anything more than the wish list of a failing department.

You can read the full details of the DWP consultation on possible new powers here.

  • thehatfox@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Crikey. That is a worrying overreach of power, which will likely end up ripe for abuse considering the prevalent attitudes in the DWP already.

    I would imagine this would likely cost more than it would save in prevented fraud also, considering the additional bureaucracy needed.

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      8 months ago

      I would imagine this would likely cost more than it would save in prevented fraud also, considering the additional bureaucracy needed.

      I can’t find the cost of DWP investigation vs loss due to fraud (but not overpayment, which is hardly ever the fault of the claimant, yet I’ve seen them both considered “fraud”), but when you consider these other numbers, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they already do spend more than they recover:

      Tax fraud cost the Treasury an estimated £20bn in 2018/19 – 9x more than benefits fraud (£2.2bn)
      DWP employs 3.5x more staff in compliance than HMRC (adjusted for size of tax and benefits gaps)
      Over the past 11 years there have been 85,745 criminal prosecutions for benefits crimes, 23x more prosecutions than for tax crime of all types (3,665)
      8.5x more suspended or immediate custodial sentences have been handed down for benefits crime vs tax crime over the last 11 years
      The number of criminal prosecutions relating to tax crime of all kinds have decreased by 39% since 2015
      The number of live criminal investigations into serious and complex tax crime has increased from 50 to 400 between 2015 and 2020

      source

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    8 months ago

    Seems like they don’t want people helping themself out a hole. If they are going to stop people from spending on things that may not look helpful but might actually help them do something like start a business so they no longer need the government’s money, that sucks.

    The government seems to want to have full control and that sucks, expecially for people with disabilities. Oh you have a disability I don’t understand, well you don’t this thing that helps with pain.

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      8 months ago

      Oh, that’s definitely the goal - keep the poor poor and the “non-contributing” as close to death they can keep us without being held accountable for our deaths…

  • Biohazard@feddit.uk
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    8 months ago

    Look DWP, if you don’t want to give out benefits, just stop doing it. Don’t arrest people. Like you can just say you hate poor people and you don’t think they should have money. This is just getting silly now