To no one’s suprise…just stop playing their shiat
Blizzard does stupid thing, gets backlash
Someone on here the other day called it payware, and that’s what it is. It’s not pay-to-play or pay-to-win, because OW2 and D4 aren’t fun to play, and there is no ending. You pay to work, then if you are interested enough to pay for cosmetics, you pay for those too. My wife and I are three levels from 100, and are dreading completing the last few levels. It feels like a part-time job, it’s miserable. We really enjoyed the last few seasons of D3. I don’t see myself continuing to play any Blizzard game after D4 season 1.
If you guys are dreading it… why not just stop playing if you guys aren’t playing with anybody else?
If a game isn’t fun, I don’t see why people would go play the game and think “I should reach this part of the game” or “I have to complete this grind”. Like I played a shitload of GTAO solo and once I realized I was basically starting to get bored and grinding out money and rep was basically becoming a second job, I dropped the game completely and moved on. Nothing is worth wasting your time on something like that imo, not even getting that sick digital cosmetic nobody will care about nor reaching an arbitrary level that won’t mean shit once the next season rolls out.
Understandable question. Sunk-cost fallacy. We paid a lot of money for the game, and we both thought it would eventually “click” or we would start having more fun (and we did honestly enjoy the campaign and leveling to around lvl 80). It just got duller to play, and the experience gained from doing a nightmare dungeon fell off a cliff. It also became useless to do helltides, world bosses, and legion events. PVP also seems non-existent (not that we were into that). Once we realized we were equally not enjoying it, we were in the high 80’s, and it just made sense to 100% the season just to see something through to the end.
I disagree that OW2 is not fun to play. People playing only for skins or rewards have the wrong idea entirely.
I’m just mad that I bought OW1 and they forced me to OW2.
Fair enough. out of curiosity, did you play much OW1?
I didn’t think OW2 had enough people still playing it to have a backlash.
Just let me know when the porn drops
If you care about skins you deserve to pay.
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D3 and OW1 were $40 each, and they were worth the money. This is like selling overpriced crack to addicts that have no alternatives. Some people will pay, and Blizzard doesn’t deserve the money.
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Some people will pay
Clearly that’s a lot of them. So I agree with your stance in:
This is like selling overpriced crack to addicts that have no alternatives
But we have to remember, these “crack users” are handing cash over to Blizzard faster than Blizzard knows what to do with it. So Blizzard is a company, they’re just looking at results and thus far results are good, there are literally zero reasons they’d consider valid to change course.
Blizzard is getting the message loud and clear its users are sending to them. Do more of this. Yeah, Blizzard can sit down and go “do I want money today or do I grow the brand?” And it sucks because we know which ones of those they picked but at the same time everyone playing Blizzard’s games know what they picked, it’s not super secret. So…
Blizzard doesn’t deserve the money
I mean they’re doing exactly what their users want, why else would they continue to, at rabid pace, dump money into the company? Overwatch isn’t some unique entry that stands alone in all of gaming. People who are vested in the brand, well they know and we know that’s not what Blizzard is here to do, they’re not here to grow the brands. So I would argue, Blizzard does deserve the money because they’re doing the exact thing their users are telling them they enjoy.
At some point we’ve got to put some blame on the players that contribute to Blizzard learning that this is an okay model of business. Blizzard is indeed to blame but it is NOT theirs alone. The “holy fucking shit” levels of cash Blizzard is making off of this game (or at least that they are reporting) is too large to just chalk up as a fluke.
I don’t disagree that some of the responsibility lies with the players. I feel if there was more competition in this game genre that Blizzard would be forced to compete with lower cosmetic prices. For example, there’s probably a market for a $500 burger joint. Maybe they make more money having 5 customers a day than a $10 burger joint. But you can’t have a town filled with only $500 burgers restaurants, it wouldn’t be sustainable. I guess in this case we will have to look into PoE 2 (if that’s what it’s called).
I’m tired of people defending the existence of cosmetics being purchase only. I want to be able to unlock the appearance and accessories of my characters. That’s part of what a fucking game is. Can you imagine if Baldurs Gate did that?
I want to be able to unlock the appearance and accessories of my characters.
I miss the ability to have skins being unlocked through quests/challenges. I occasionally play Apex and it feels like the skins would be more impactful if they were actually hard to get. To get a legendary skin you should have to do something legendary, not just open a box. Like imagine you see the person with the skin, unlocked from getting 20 kills on that character in a match with both teammates dead. (I understand there are skins that upgrade on kills but that’s a pretty boring linear achievement). Instead it’s just paint with arbitrary rarity, that requires no mastering to unlock.
It’s just another in a long line of reasons why modern games, sometimes specifically AAA games are just not as good anymore. They feel soulless and paint by the number with no real satisfaction attached.
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Yeah man, everything can just look like Dwarf Fortress, graphics mean nothing, visual variety and progression in a game add no substance or perceived enjoyment /s
People on the internet: EA sucks! it couldn’t possibly get worse than them.
Blizzard: Hold my beer…
Blizzard fans: we have been treated like shit for 15 years straight yet we still buy their shit
Yeah, i know this is what happens with fans of any good game i just biased against blizzard in this
The $15/month I pay for Wrath of Lich King Classic is starting to seem like a good deal.
That’s how awful this company has gotten.
I hate to say it, but you’re enabling the problem
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Thats the 57th last straw
