u/epic_gamerman12 - originally from r/GenZhou

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    u/SmilingDragonMikmek - originally from r/GenZhou
    They “invaded the south” after the US invaded Korea, outlawed the People’s Republic, and set up a military dictatorship in the south of the peninsula. They “invaded the south” after thousands of their countrymen under occupation were massacred for trying to shake off the US puppet government during the Jeju uprising.

    History books will tell you that the Korean War started with the North invading the South, but only because they brush away and ignore all the American aggression leading up to that moment. When we invaded half the country and overthrew their government, that didn’t count in the eyes of Western historians.

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      u/TopperHrly - originally from r/GenZhou
      Yeah it would basically be like saying “Korea invaded Korea”.

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        u/juanlonelycantaloupe - originally from r/GenZhou
        The North also won what started out as a civil war and had nearly routed all combatants in the matter of a few weeks…then the United States decided to invade to “help”. Less people would have died, less property would have been destroyed if the U.S hadn’t put boots on the ground. This would be the equivalent to England or France invading the U.S and “help” the Confederacy win the civil war at the last minute. Not to mention it was an illegal declaration of war made by Truman without authorization from congress. I basically have the “Korean War” test when getting to know people. If they’ve heard of “No Gun Ri” I will take their views on foreign affairs seriously. If not, they can go fuck themselves because they don’t know anything.

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    u/warender99 - originally from r/GenZhou
    Kinda hard to invade your own country. If what you mean is did the Communists try and overthrow the colonial government then I would say I certainly hope they did.

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      u/cholantesh - originally from r/GenZhou
      …what’s up with that url?

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        u/NvMe_24 - originally from r/GenZhou
        i assume you’re confused about the long list of numbers in the link then i have no idea, probably because its from the CIA website

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          u/cholantesh - originally from r/GenZhou
          Sorry, was just waking up when I posted that; I was just surprised the CIA would host that pdf.

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            u/NvMe_24 - originally from r/GenZhou
            All good, but yeah it’s a bit fishy that the cia would have that PDF on their site

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    u/donnie_darko222 - originally from r/GenZhou
    they “invaded” yeah (not really an invade if it’s technically your country in my opinion). There was escalations of conflict across the border, with the conflict and “first shots” being initiated by SK. Jeju massacre was said to be the start of the Korean war which was SK police/gov murdering pro-communist supporters

    “The Jeju uprising was notable for its extreme violence; between 14,000 and 30,000 people (10% of Jeju’s population) were killed, and 40,000 fled to Japan.[6][8][9][1]: 139, 193  Atrocities and war crimes were committed by both sides, but historians have noted that the methods used by the South Korean government to suppress protesters and rebels were especially cruel, with violence against civilians by pro-government forces contributing to the Yeosu-Suncheon rebellion in South Jeolla during the conflict.[1]: 171 [6][7]: 13–14 [1]: 186  Some historians and scholars, including military historian Allan R. Millett, regard the Jeju uprising as the authentic beginning of the Korean War.[10]In 2006, almost 60 years after the Jeju uprising, the South Korean government apologized for its role in the killings and promised reparations.[11] In 2019, the South Korean police and defense ministry apologized for the first time over the massacres”.

    Nobody really talks about it or acknowledges it when claiming that “communists invaded the south to spread communism”

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    u/JuicyJunior - originally from r/GenZhou
    It’s actually not clear which side initiated the Korean War and even mainstream historians acknowledge this. In any case I don’t think it matters as other comments have pointed out it was a civil war and so “invasion” is a dubious term for the conflict.

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    u/DogeXiaoping - originally from r/GenZhou
    On June 25 the south attacked and occupied the city of haeju, causing the north to counter attack. This then escalated into full war.

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    u/Mission_Carpenter_94 - originally from r/GenZhou
    Did the Red Army invaded Western Russia in the early 40s?