Everyone knows the tale of Brand X getting bought out by some faceless global conglomerate and going to shit, but does the opposite ever happen?

  • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Can you not just install Windows 11 normally on an ARM processor? I would think it’d be included with a normal installer but idk for sure, do people even build custom ARM rigs?

    Its sort of a give and take though still, you can’t really build a hackintosh without very specific parts so… The fact there is no “macOS for ARM” copy available at all makes the point somewhat moot no?

    UWP still exists, Microsoft is like the only one still developing them though, there are a few others but it’s definitely not a focus for any devs outside of Microsoft that I’ve seen.

    Though I do agree that Apple generally sticks to their decisions whether for better or for worse :p

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      9 months ago

      This is the page for Windows on ARM. It’s locked behind the Windows Insider program.

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewARM64

      People aren’t building ARM system like they are x86 (yet), but I’ve seen people who want to put Windows on something akin to the Raspberry Pi, and they have to go this Insider route.

      macOS is only licensed to run on Apple hardware, so you can’t just install it on generic hardware without a lot of hoops and extra code to support all the hardware. Windows is positioned much differently than macOS. Windows on ARM actually seems more like macOS, where it just comes with the hardware. That being said, the official release of macOS can be installed on ARM (Apple Silicon) or Intel. It’s not a lesser version of the OS.

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        9 months ago

        Right gotcha, wasn’t aware there isn’t an installable windows for ARM specifically.

        I know though, that’s kind of my point, the landscape and way in which windows works on way way more configurations compared to Mac (simply due to the differences we’ve both pointed out) makes it not quite a fair comparison, Apple controls all aspects of the hardware and ONLY their hardware (or choice of hardware) is made to work with it, so it’s much easier for them to develop and force people over to ARM or whatever specific system they’re pushing developers and users towards, whereas windows is much more backwards compatible and users/manufacturers/devs have a lot more options out there.

        Similar to Android vs iOS, it’s a lot easier to tightly control and force certain things when you’re the arbiter of where people can install apps, what hardware it can run on, and every design aspect.

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          9 months ago

          That’s fair. I guess I figured after over a decade since Windows RT first released, and with the popularity of ARM starting to ramp up, Windows would be in a better position, with hardware and chip makers working with them to ensure support. I suppose most of the ARM devices have been hobbyist devices using Linux.

          With the success of Apple Silicon, it seems like a lot of companies are looking into making their own chips. If Microsoft isn’t careful they might miss this boat, the same way they missed mobile.