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You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys::Bad news for those planning to activate Windows 11 with a Windows 7 or 8/8.1 key: users noticed that the latest Windows 11 preview builds no longer allow activation with old license keys.
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That’s fine. But the chances of me giving Microsoft money for a copy of windows in 2024 is zero. I think that’s true of pretty much everyone.
Yep and for your hundreds of dollars they serve ads all over your desktop.
From what I have seen you can get a copy of pro from some 3rd party sites on sale for like $30 and around $50 normally. I would be ok with $30 but no way would I ever spend over $100.
Still, even for $30. I refuse to pay for something to shove ads down my throat. If you’re advertising to me then I’m not paying.
Right? They try to make us the product by hard baking invasive telemetry into windows. Then want us to pay for it too? Nawh.
Most people buying a non-apple pre built machine or a laptop don’t really have a choice. Microsoft subsidized their hardware so that they end up “buying” windows regardless. Especially regarding laptops, there just isn’t always an option for buying the hardware and specs you want without getting Windows bundled by default. OEM bundling and business licenses are what’s keeping Windows dominant in desktop market share. They don’t need individuals to choose Windows, the choice has likely already been made for them.
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I mean, you’d have to want to activate a Windows 11 build in the first place. I’m doing just fine on Windows 10 and don’t see any reason at all to “upgrade”. Let’s see if they can manage not to bake ads and tracking into whatever comes after 11 and I’ll consider it then.
Not a problem right now but Windows 10 is reaching its end of support two years from now in Oct 2025.
When Windows 10 launched, wasn’t it said that this would be the “last” version of Windows and it would just get continually updated?
Yeah but then Apple dropped their longstanding practice of naming MacOS releases 10.x and went to MacOS 11 and if there’s one thing that Microsoft can never resist it’s copying Apple.
No. This was one engineer that said that en everyone ran with it. Microsoft officially never said this
everyone ran with it
Because everyone wanted it to be true. Everyone wanted to just have stability and no more radical interface changes.
Yep, and that lasted all of about a year I think before MS backtracked on it. Microsoft has an MO, they release a bad version of Windows which everyone hates, then they remove/fix most of the things people hate and release a good version of Windows, then they get cocky and cram a bunch of stuff people hate into the next version and the cycle repeats. Right now we’re on the “everyone hates it” part of the cycle with Windows 11 where they crammed ads, tracking, and a mandatory MS account sign-in into it.
I’m expecting Windows 12 (or whatever they end up calling it, probably not 12 as that would be sane), to bring back offline accounts, remove the ads, and at least tone down the tracking, but that will only happen after enough people refuse to “upgrade” off of 10.
Alternatively they could go the XP route and release essentially Windows 11 SP2, which rips all the garbage out and makes it not suck, but I think that’s less likely.
W11 still has local account.
From what I recall last I looked into this, that’s technically true but there were a couple gotchas. I can’t remember exactly but it was either that it’s a major PITA to setup during install (deeply buried in a very non-obvious location), or else that you had to use a MS account to install, but once installed you could then make and use a local account. In either case it’s very clear MS is doing everything they can to force you into using their online accounts. I wouldn’t be surprised if they remove the ability to activate Windows 11 without using a MS account soon if they haven’t already.
No you can just put in a blocked email and then it prompts you to make a local account
What constitutes a blocked email?
Personally, that is when I intend to switch to Linux. Will give 2 years of more proton, and wine, updates for me.
Still works with Windows 10 keys, however. Makes sense since Windows 8 and earlier are EOL now. Also, you don’t have to activate Windows if you don’t want to, it’ll just bug you occasionally.
Definitely don’t paste this into cmd if your windows is still inactivated: irm https://massgrave.dev/get | iex
Actually it’s also affected for HWID activation. From the link you posted:
Microsoft servers are currently rejecting HWID activation requests when activating through MAS, we’re checking what’s going on now. Use the KMS38 activation option for now.
Thanks, good to know
can you at least activate windows 7 with windows 11 keys?
Can I license Windows 10 with a Windows 7 key and then upgrade to Windows 11?
Surely they wouldn’t revoke your license after the upgrade.
