Of course, not Tomi Lahren though…

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    1 year ago

    the “alien/DMT phase” was literally the conspiracy and Alt-right pipeline

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      Joe thinks the conspiracy stuff is funny. He gets high and laughs at it. He’s not CNN. It’s a dude getting high/drunk talking about shit with people he thinks might be funny or interesting to him, and if people want to watch it, ok.

      How is he an alt-right pipeline when he also had people like Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders on, and even endorsed Sanders? He has people from the left and right on the show, because that’s how you learn and create a more nuanced understanding of things. And if someone is a nut job, you can see they’re a nut job.

      You aren’t meant to watch every episode and dogmatically follow everything that’s said like it’s some kind of training camp. Uses your brain, look at the context, think for yourself.

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        How is he an alt-right pipeline when he also had people like Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders on, and even endorsed Sanders?

        Yeah, Joe Rogan describes himself as a liberal. He has guests who he thinks will be interesting, not who he agrees with. I understand the idea of wanting to know what makes those people tick.

        There is still a great point to be made that he’s giving awful people a large platform to spew hateful or wrong messages to millions of people, and while Rogan often plays devil’s advocate, he doesn’t do much to delegitimize people who don’t deserve to be taken seriously.

        Ultimately, I think that Rogan does more harm than good because he allows hateful and stupid people to influence his audience.

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          Ultimately, I think that Rogan does more harm than good because he allows hateful and stupid people to influence his audience.

          He literally has the most listened to podcast in the US and by a huge mile. It’s stupid to generalize his audience as well as his guests. His list of guests is comically huge and so diverse that it’s hard to wrap your head around. He has guests ranging from Bernie Sanders to Elon Musk to Mike Tyson to Neil deGrasse Tyson to Kevin Hart to Bob Lazar. That’s why people find his podcast so interesting, and the fact that he’s good conversationalist makes it easy to understand why his podcast is as popular as it is. The amount of guests he had that could be described as genuinely hateful is miniscule, and even then it’s better to listen to them and understand how their views came to be than to remain ignorant and pretend that you know everything about them based on what others told you. It’s not his place to legitimize or delegitimize people. That’s up to the individual in the audience to decide. He’s just there to have a fun conversation with interesting people and provide an hour or two of entertainment.

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          I think those people do a pretty good job of delegitimizing themselves.

          If every interview turned into a witch hunt with Rogan attacking them and looking for gotcha moment, there wouldn’t be an open dialog or room for honest discussion and debate. It would show Rogan already made up his mind and just had a person on the show to talk shit to them and make a fool of them. That’s not who he is, that’s not what the show is, and it’s what people hated about people like Bill O’Riley. We have enough shows on the major news networks doing that, we don’t need yet another one.