I think the synthesis here is that yes sports are dumb. So is dungeons and dragons. Adults can like dumb things, just acknowledge they are not serious and are for playing around.
no this comic is a war crime because people fill in the sportsball speech bubble to make the character criticize their shitty unexamined reactionary treats. For (an extreme) example:
“oh hey, you enjoying blackface cartoons from the 1930s again? That’s pretty messed u-”
we dont have a system that destroys the bodies of millions of child minorities trying to save themselves from poverty via dnd. no one is getting injuries in their brain that leads to them taking their own lives. theres no history of making slaves play dnd for white peoples entertainment. no local town politics are based around dnd. wizards of the coast doesn’t have the American government by the balls. no dnd college player is getting cheated out of millions of dollars their labor earned, while also working minimum wage job to keep the lights on. we smash black children’s brains together till its a fine goo that is not playing around.
you know they aren’t non abusers who watch sports and then become abusive right. It’s the already domestically violent aggravated by their hobby not going the way they wanted if they had a different hobby they would be just as abusive but at different time periods
I should have said that sports correlates with a spike in DV and not causes it. However, just as I can’t say for certain that sports events directly causes DV, I don’t think it’s correct to say that there’s no link between sports and DV and that the same net amount of abuse would result even if sporting events are removed from the equation.
Anecdotally, I used to volunteer with a charity that helped out young people who were in trouble, including DV. Major sporting events were always times where they tried to get all hands on deck because there was always a surge in calls compared to just about every other time of year except Christmas.
Obviously alcohol is a huge factor too, but sporting culture in the Angloshere is also incredibly entwined with drinking culture so its hard to separate those factors.
That’s kind of presumptive and even if your claim could be verified (it really can’t), way too many domestic partners have reported violence peaking during The Big Game style events for there to not at least be influence on when their violent outbursts break out, or how often.
It’d be like saying soccer hooligan riots would 100% happen exactly the same way if every single soccer hooligan was collecting stamps instead, while also blissfully ignoring when soccer hooligan riots happen (after soccer games), which isn’t just out of thin air.
In theory, yes. In practice, I don’t think anyone has ever had their school program defunded so that the school can buy new Dungeons and Dragons books.
Is D&D packed with ads every 15 seconds? Are there D&D betting apps D&D enjoyers are pushed to gamble with? Do DMs start sessions jerking off the US military with giant flags and the burger national anthem?
On a more serious level I think people are confusing sports (exercise based games) with sports (organised large scale leagues) that’s muddying the waters. Enjoying a kickabout with your mates is no worse than playing D&D with them, it’s once you’ve got fanbases that the problems develop - just look at how ads are working into many D&D shows.
That’s a big difference to me: I can accept that some people don’t like some things I’m in to. As long as it isn’t some dogmatic bullshit about how “X is FOR BABIES” I really do accept that not everyone likes stuff I like.
Has D&D helped gut and destroy the American educational system? Has it given millions of young people brain concussions? Does it use slave labor to make stadiums? Is the highest paid state employee a D&D DM?
I think the synthesis here is that yes sports are dumb. So is dungeons and dragons. Adults can like dumb things, just acknowledge they are not serious and are for playing around.
no this comic is a war crime because people fill in the sportsball speech bubble to make the character criticize their shitty unexamined reactionary treats. For (an extreme) example:
“oh hey, you enjoying blackface cartoons from the 1930s again? That’s pretty messed u-”
“shhhh let people enjoy things”
we dont have a system that destroys the bodies of millions of child minorities trying to save themselves from poverty via dnd. no one is getting injuries in their brain that leads to them taking their own lives. theres no history of making slaves play dnd for white peoples entertainment. no local town politics are based around dnd. wizards of the coast doesn’t have the American government by the balls. no dnd college player is getting cheated out of millions of dollars their labor earned, while also working minimum wage job to keep the lights on. we smash black children’s brains together till its a fine goo that is not playing around.
I also struggle to think of any DnD campaigns that caused mass rioting, or a statistically significant annual spike in domestic violence.
you know they aren’t non abusers who watch sports and then become abusive right. It’s the already domestically violent aggravated by their hobby not going the way they wanted if they had a different hobby they would be just as abusive but at different time periods
Its almost as if sports in the US are tied up with toxic masculinity and patriarchy, and thats the heart of the issue some people have with them.
I should have said that sports correlates with a spike in DV and not causes it. However, just as I can’t say for certain that sports events directly causes DV, I don’t think it’s correct to say that there’s no link between sports and DV and that the same net amount of abuse would result even if sporting events are removed from the equation.
Anecdotally, I used to volunteer with a charity that helped out young people who were in trouble, including DV. Major sporting events were always times where they tried to get all hands on deck because there was always a surge in calls compared to just about every other time of year except Christmas.
Obviously alcohol is a huge factor too, but sporting culture in the Angloshere is also incredibly entwined with drinking culture so its hard to separate those factors.
That’s kind of presumptive and even if your claim could be verified (it really can’t), way too many domestic partners have reported violence peaking during The Big Game style events for there to not at least be influence on when their violent outbursts break out, or how often.
It’d be like saying soccer hooligan riots would 100% happen exactly the same way if every single soccer hooligan was collecting stamps instead, while also blissfully ignoring when soccer hooligan riots happen (after soccer games), which isn’t just out of thin air.
In theory, yes. In practice, I don’t think anyone has ever had their school program defunded so that the school can buy new Dungeons and Dragons books.
Is D&D packed with ads every 15 seconds? Are there D&D betting apps D&D enjoyers are pushed to gamble with? Do DMs start sessions jerking off the US military with giant flags and the burger national anthem?
Please don’t give WotC more fucking ideas
On a more serious level I think people are confusing sports (exercise based games) with sports (organised large scale leagues) that’s muddying the waters. Enjoying a kickabout with your mates is no worse than playing D&D with them, it’s once you’ve got fanbases that the problems develop - just look at how ads are working into many D&D shows.
If you can bet on WWE matches, you should be able to bet on D&D campaigns
Is there a Game of Thrones expansion for basketball? I don’t like sports leagues generally, but let’s not kid ourselves.
True. Capitalism ruins everything it touches, and Wizards of the Coast is easily the worst offender.
That’s a big difference to me: I can accept that some people don’t like some things I’m in to. As long as it isn’t some dogmatic bullshit about how “X is FOR BABIES” I really do accept that not everyone likes stuff I like.
Has D&D helped gut and destroy the American educational system? Has it given millions of young people brain concussions? Does it use slave labor to make stadiums? Is the highest paid state employee a D&D DM?