Hey, so I have a Ryzen 7 5800x with an 240mm AIO this one “ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 SNOW CPU”
Now I’ve returned a block cooler because I was worried about the temps being too high. So I got this AIO and again the temps were high so I convinced myself I hadn’t seated it correctly. Taken it off and reseated but still runs hotter than I want or would have thought. Disclaimer I over think and this may be one of those times.
So on boot it can get as high as 85 but mainly between 70-80.
Then sat at idle it’ll be 30-40 then random spikes up to 80.
Opening Visual Studio Professional and ramps up again but settles around 50 when coding.
Minecraft on 12 chunks render with optifine, hits 85 on load the. Hangs around 60 whilst playing.
Same for Factorio. But not tested any other games.
Happy to make some recordings if that would help.
Thanks
Maximum operating temperature (Tjmax) is 90° for that chip. 85° is the max spike you saw.
85° <= 90°, therefore you’re good. If it was constantly right up against Tjmax, that’d indicate that something’s wrong with the cooling but the likes of 70-80° are expected of a chip of this class.
Have a check on what your motherboardois doing in the BIOS. Asus like to by default apply extra boost to give extra performance. I managed to get my 5700G with stock cooler to 4.4ghz all core with less than stock voltages, not sure on temps at the mo as I’m not at home and england is having a bit of a heat wave at the mo (tho I might have won the silicon lotto with my chip)
Hey thanks. So I’m in the UK too so the ambient temp is higher than usual.
I also have an ASUS Mobo. So I guess I’ll check the boost and try and turn it down or off.
I’m not home now as it stressed me out so I’ll have a look when I get back and report back.
If I get a change to reboot in to the bios I’ll try and note down my voltage’s
- my core ratio is 44
- VDDCR cpu 1.288 (manual)
- VDDCR SOC 1.35 (manual)
I honestly wouldn’t worry about it, especially with the weather as it is at the moment- my PC is getting about the same with a 3900x, nice noctua cooler and loads of airflow It’s been going over 30 in my office and even the best coolers can’t break that physics
Check again when it cools down, might make it easier to see if/where there are issues
Thanks for the response.
I will bare in mind the current weather, but I can’t not worry, I’m not built like that.
After the other persons comment I do believe that it’s being OC’d by default. Im just not home to test it out. But I’m sure I recall the frequency being above 4ghz and the 5800x is rated for 3.8ghz standard. So I’ll see what the temps are saying once I check that.
I guess I’m just anxious about the contact with the cooler, and like I say I tend to overthink certain things. It usually passes, then I’ll be thinking about the impact of increased anxiety on life expectancy lol
To make you less anxious:
A friend of mine had issues with his (much older) PC, stuttering in games and similar but it still worked
When I took a look I found it was pegged throttling at 100deg after running for a while. This had been going on for months
Eventually found the AIO pump had completely died, any cooling was due to passive conduction through the materials and water
We replaced the cooler and now it’s been running fine for another 3 years and going
TL:DR: modern CPUs can run hot, and safely boost. As it gets too hot it will start reducing clocks but it’s highly unlikely you damage anything unless you go out of your way to overclock, overvolt or ditch the cooler entirely
What happens if you take the side panel off and you play Minecraft + Optifine? Do your temps dramatically plummet? If you see an appreciable difference, your problem is airflow.
What kind of computer case do you have? Is it a proper case with good airflow and no tempered glass everywhere that restricts it? I also don’t mean those cases with thin vents on the side and a solid panel that forces air to make a 90 degree turn. Ideally, you want airflow to go in a straight direction rather than taking hard turns (which is more restrictive).
If your case is good, do you have your fans in the correct orientation and intaking air? Do you have enough fans to balance airflow so that you have either positive or neutral pressure (NOT negative pressure)? In my build, I have 3 intakes on the front and 2 exhaust fans. The 3 intakes are set to a slightly higher speed than the 2 exhaust fans so that I have optimal positive pressure in my case.
Finally, considering all the above, the last things to of course double-check are to: [1] Ensure you’ve got the correct fan curves and that your AIO pump is set to a correct profile for your workload, and [2] Ensure that your AIO is oriented with the fans to intake air, ideally.
It’s better to cool your CPU with intaked cool air, rather than exhausting hot air. If your case permits it, try to have the AIO radiator installed in an intake position with your two fans set to intake.
When I take the side panel off the temps remained the same.
I have an NZXT H5 Flow case which has one tempered glass side panel.
The setup I had was built in intake at the front bottom of the case and then two more intake 140mm fans on the front. Built in rear exhaust fan and then I had the AIO set to exhaust at the top of the case with its two 120mm fans.
I have now changed to your advice and the AIO has moved to the front as intake and I have the two 140s moved to the top of the case to exhaust.
I don’t understand what’s happening with regards to OC as I don’t want any and my CPU is 3.8ghz but I’m seeing core 0 sometimes others hitting well over 4ghz but nothing in the BIOS indicates OC is enabled nor in armoury crate.
Of note, My 3700x will spike to 75~ but it’s quite literally a spike, the 3x120mm fans go jet engine and quickly stabilize it at 55, 60 max on cyberpunk. Ambient temperature when idle.
These Temps are well within the operating range over time. If it detects temperature, modern cpus will self throttle, and even shutdown. No shutdowns or throttling and you are fine.
AMD’s current strat is to maximum the power of the cpu, pushing it to the thermal limit of 95c and attempting to use every last ounce of power it can.
I mitigate this, since I don’t think running that hot constantly is a good idea, by limiting the voltage to about 1.2v in Ryzen Master. Doesn’t impact performance, but keeps the temps down to around 60 when under strain.
According to AMD, it’s perfectly fine to run at up to 95c, though.
Yeah this seems to be what is happening but I haven’t noted the voltage. I’ll do this tomorrow and try and limit it. I don’t want OC and just want cool temps.
