• hardware26@discuss.tchncs.de
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    10 months ago

    This is the first time I hear “black barbershop”. Is it what I think it is, why is such separation needed?

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      10 months ago

      There’s no requirement, and there’s no reason a white person can’t go to a black barbershop, but black people’s hair is often much different to cut than most white people’s hair, and preferred styles quite different.

      It’s not so much “this barber is for black people” and more so “this barber is owned by black people, so black people can assume they’ll be given the experience they’re looking for”

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        10 months ago

        As an Elmer’s glue looking person myself, before I started letting my hair grow I was only going to black barbershops to get a buzz cut. I don’t know what the hell they do different cause it felt the exact same as every other haircut, but my hair fell so much nicer. Literally the texture was 10x better.

        It also seemed way more even despite the fact that it took less time.

        Also, they had a guy out front who made BBQ sandwiches once every few weeks. I scheduled my haircuts around him being there. He got really bad mono and was out for a month. I let my hair grow the entire time.

      • LetKCater2U@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        Also, I don’t think black hair care is taught in most beauty schools or tested for for most state licensing exams.

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      10 months ago

      Black people have different hair from other races, many times non-black folks don’t know how to accommodate these textures. Beyond that, historically, the barbershop in Black communities is a meeting place. People gather to discuss current events, politics, pop culture, and life in general. In this space, everyone is on the same footing. It’s a cultural thing, so there is a distinction.

    • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.worldOPM
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      10 months ago

      I’m not Black, so take that into consideration. What I’ve heard is that while hair-cutting skill is a factor, it’s not just about that. Barbershops have historically served a social function within the Black community that carries on to this day. Here’s a source.

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      10 months ago

      From what I’ve seen in Australia, it’s the different hair texture and knowledge/methods to style/cut it.

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      10 months ago

      As a white dude with extremely curly hair…yeah, kinda. Curly hair must be cut a certain way, otherwise it turns into a frizzball that you can’t fix. And the tighter the curls, the harder it is to cut it properly.

      I haven’t gotten a haircut in nearly 5 years since decided to embrace the curls. I’m strongly considering just going to a black barbershop just because of the horror stories I’ve heard about other shops cutting curly hair.

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      Black people have different hair than other races so it requires a specific skillset not all barbers have aquired. Also the black American community puts a lot of value in their haircuts. Because of that black barbershops are not only a place where you get your hair cut but also an important meeting place in the community with huge cultural importance.

      Btw I’m a white German who’s never been to the US who got all his information about black barbershops from media so if someone better informed than me chips in I’d rather listen to them than me if I were you.

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      10 months ago

      Racism.

      Many black and other minority communities had to establish their own businesses because of being excluded from and/or violence against them at white run businesses.

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        10 months ago

        Bad take. Read the other comments in this thread for the actual reasons.

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          10 months ago

          I mean, they’re right as well. Especially here in the South. Until recently where small, local barbershops have become almost a thing of the past. The guy I used to see as a kid (when I had no choice) would chase black people out of his shop with a shotgun while shouting slurs.

          His shop only closed when he died in 2010. Racist fucker was almost 100.

          Every barbershop where I am used to be like that.

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            10 months ago

            I’m not denying that black people have been kicked out of business as a result of racism. I’m challenging that as the primary reason that black barbershops exist today.

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          10 months ago

          What, the ones that pretend that regular barbershops are somehow unable to handle hair on black folks to such an extent that they needed to start babershops just for black people in black communities?

          No, they exist for reasons far beyond barber skill sets.

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    10 months ago

    Kind of a nice message but I don’t like that this reinforces expectations that going to a barber shop run by a different race is “strange”.

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      10 months ago

      Black barbershop are different because black people generally have tight curly hair, which requires different skills and techniques to cut than straight hair.

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      Americans still feel it’s weird, while I grew up with almost only Turkish barbershops in the Netherlands and here it’s mostly Indians. The only barbershop I went to in the US was a black barbershop and it was fully worth it. Biggest difference is that they take the time for you, you can have a nice chat etc. Definitely a lot more expensive than in Europe though.

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        Nowadays I am bald and don’t go to any barber shop. But in my younger days I felt that I got better results at a barber who has a lot of customers with similar hair as mine. I am turkish (living in Germany), but (used to) have thin blond hair. So, while I also went to turkish barbers, I chose those who have many German customers.

        Tl,dr: This isn’t necessarily based in rasism imo.

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    10 months ago

    The kids mouth in the last panel confused me a bit but I guess it just got wider from all the talking