this is the previous post. is this how I use reddit? Okay. Hear me out. That last post was just a spearhead. Something to get something started. Itā€™s part of my process. And since then, Iā€™ve had some conversations with notable people (not you, but nowā€™s your chance). Some good pushback. Some challenges fronted. From people who have dreamt and tried. Expectations from this post: This is the new revision and after youā€™ll see a clearer vision of an innovative approach and ways (not yet) to get involved but will be soon available if you stay tuned. A business plan is forthcoming. Funding TBD. Iā€™m well aware by now this is Reddit and the most upvoted comment will the one that best cuts this all to shreds. I welcome it. Fight me and make this all better for it. First will be context and then Iā€™ll share the idea. Read at your own pace. Context: Itā€™s gotta be NYC. If itā€™s not NYC then whereā€™s it gonna be? Thereā€™s many places that wonā€™t matter for the start of this. So that means rent is high; competition is high. Innovation is required. Thereā€™s already a bitcoin center and we could be a little doily on their skirts until we get too successful, with their cold corporate halls and stockmarket adjacency. We could go to SF! Thereā€™s no punk rock in SF. Londonā€¦ donā€™t even get me started. L.A. worships ā€œthe industry.ā€ Itā€™s NYC or itā€™s nowhere. but it needs to be somewhere. but the challenges existā€¦ NYC has lots of costs, rules, and other barriers. But also, we have notable people in Monero from NYC that live in NYC. NYC doesnā€™t have the mark of Monero yet. Also, thereā€™s more to monero than its own existenceā€¦ itā€™s an idea. So, again, innovation is needed. Location and square footage are extremely expensive in NYC. Chicken might not cut it. Chicken barely makes it where it doesā€¦ and thatā€™s when your only goal is selling chicken. What succeeds? The single most epic marker of success is adaptability. So letā€™s innovate there. Letā€™s make it not just adaptable, but also capable of revenue in many places. I donā€™t just want a scatter-shot. I want a scatter-shot of excellence in each grain that just lets what succeeds to succeed. You see itā€¦ every operation working a certain way and they bank on it working according to plan.

Idea: I have 6 system requirements for this thus far (and forgive my use of language to my fellow system engineers among you. youā€™ll understand, no doubt): it needs to improve monero economy in ways that benefit everyone it needs to be financially soluble. Shouldnā€™t need any cash influxes ā€œfor da causeā€. it needs to have a solid emphasis on monero at all times. it must be easily referential it shall be ā€œtransportiveā€ when you walk in the door it needs to have a ā€œfeelā€ on the exterior It shall in no way be a surveillance or LEA-friendly place. Youā€™re free and relieved here. It will expand based on an example of cypherpunk ethos. The whole thing is nexus for cypherpunk. Location must be accessible and notable The working name: ā€œfreetown NYCā€ ā€œbut dMartian you said there were only 6 requirements but I see 9ā€ Yeah cuz Iā€™m extra. Keep up. (this is great fodder to cut me down. use it)

The walls: theyā€™re going to all be cypherpunk art. Working theme is the ride ā€œitā€™s a small world after allā€ with cypherpunk distortion. The kitchens: now this is innovation: youā€™ve heard of a food truck. they sit around a lot. But what weā€™re going to do is make a ā€œroll-in kitchen.ā€ Itā€™s something 2 people can roll out of a food truck and make a kitchen in a brick and mortar store. Then they can roll out and make revenue and make presence for xmr where itā€™s needed. Or not if thereā€™s no need. An old food truck payments are much cheaper than rent in NYC. Then what do we do with the rest of the square footage? Iā€™m not going to sit here and sell you on my excellent chicken or probably more excellent curry and tacos. We can find people that do that part no problem. Events: So thereā€™s going to be hanging LCD screens from the ceiling, not covering our artwork on the walls done by cypherpunks. During wheneverā€¦ itā€™ll be NFTs people can buy. The house gets a cut which incentivizes putting up the ones that sell. Which gives that a budget. Wanna be cool? Hold your event at Freetown. put your powerpoints on the screens. Dualityā€¦ always. Anything doesnā€™t work has so many options. Chairs will be stackable. they work for fika and they work for presentations.

Inspirations: Freetown Christiana, Copenhagen Various ghetto fleemarts Bitcoin center CafĆ© Tu Tu Tango, Orlando Many moreā€¦

The next steps: I need to refine this down to a business plan. Then we can see who wants to invest. Thatā€™s a big question bc it defines how we want to go about this. Should I court financiers? Should I do a CCS? For instance, if I go CCS I canā€™t make it free funding for a for-profit business. Itā€™s social entrepreneurshipā€¦ figuring out how to help a cause without needing charity. So weā€™d need a way to give back to donors in some commensurate way or maybe something else.

Hereā€™s where the 5 year plan comes in: monero has an uncanny way of attracting excellent talent. If you buy something with monero, odds are itā€™s really good stuff. so we can stock limited quantities of whatā€™s already available for monero. Accept cash or goldback but give discount on monero. but we have limited quantities (think back to adaptability). What sells well will run out of stock and then weā€™ll have limited quantities only available for monero. Then we figure out what works and what doesnā€™t. Limited quantities, right? And those items will become increasingly out of stock unless you get monero. What does a cash-only place do when someone doesnā€™t have cash? They point you to the ATM they have. Weā€™ll point you to where you can get monero. Then youā€™ll be educated on monero. youā€™ll have monero. and you can buy the good shit that we know is the good shit bc itā€™s what sells.

The prologue: Iā€™m not really an arrogant prick. At least, not as much as I am here. People donā€™t think that about me that know me, but I went with the approach here. I hope it was mildly entertaining while also getting the point across :)

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    Letā€™s begin from the end of your post, shall we? I didnā€™t perceive you as an ā€˜arrogant prickā€™ and I have not heard any other voices say so. Youā€™re just speaking your mind and thatā€™s totally ok. It was very entertaining and I get your point(s). I hope youā€™re working well even when not under pressure or being fought against, because Iā€™m not going to fight you :-)

    Just as you send out your ā€˜spearheadā€™, I let loose my ā€˜test-balloonā€™ and it worked out both-wise I guess, lol. I just wanted to check out the waters about your irresistible chicken strips and I get ā€˜my taste of itā€™ (pun intended).

    There is no reference to your previous post. I assume you are referring to this post ? It wasnā€™t my intention to ā€˜push backā€™ on you nor to ā€˜tear you downā€™. I wanted to raise awareness about numerous three letter organizations that will give you more attention than you want if you engage in any kind of sales transaction, i.e. transfer of any kind of goods in exchange for any consideration. I have to point out that this is not legal or financial advise. I am not a lawyer, never will be nor want to be one. Iā€™m just speaking from my own experience during my long journey on planet Earth. If you want real legal advise, reach out to a lawyer.

    You think the chicken strips might not cut it. Youā€™re looking for ā€˜adaptabilityā€™ and ā€˜innovationā€™. Letā€™s go for ā€˜Pulled Pork BBQā€™ instead. All my points raised earlier still stand. You are still confronting the same problems. Three letter institutions will not leave you alone as soon as you make a move with any product that you can come up with. Even if your kitchen is movable. They will figure out where you move to next and will be waiting for you already before you arrive. That is the reason why you have to move away from the ā€˜publicā€™ realm and go into a ā€˜privateā€™ one. Everything that has the slightest smell of ā€˜publicā€™, they will come for it. Reason for that is, every one of us has entered into a ā€˜contractā€™ with them without even knowing it. Most people just donā€™t know this. According to that contract, you have agreed to certain rules they have set and which they constantly expand and extend. And they will enforce all of those rules. If you do something what they dislike and has no rule, they just make one up and enforce that then on you. You can not win as long as you play their game. The only way to escape is to go ā€˜privateā€™, a realm where they have no power over. And, within this ā€˜privateā€™ environment all members can offer and/or take or exchange whatever they want, without interference from anybody else. When it comes to exchanging values, there wonā€™t be any better way than to use XMR instead of any foreign fiat currency which they claim is theirs. We, the members, can roll our own currency. We donā€™t really need theirs. Could be another 1778 without any blood shed, right? We just need enough members.

    I am looking forward to your 5 year plan. If you go further down in details, which is needed from a certain point onward, I recommend not putting it out in public but talk to people or groups of people in private. May be some DM will do, but in my opinion text within a sturdy envelope and send via email does best.

    If you want to keep me uptodate that way, try this: eric2377 via email. The fingerprint should be 9F25EE488F402AE044BC383727EF37106B1EF67F and you can be assured you talk to me. If you want to send out more spearheadsā€¦ you sure must do so here in public, but you know all that.

    I can promise confidentiallity and will not be in competition with you or your ideas. Iā€™m too old for that. But I might participate a bit if you want to. And yes, I am an Engineer too :-)