It is so frustrating to argue with libs who make arguments so old that
literally Marx himself responded to them. I get the impression that
Marxists already won the debate back in the 19th century and the liberal
tactic has just been to pretend the debate has never happened, to
continue repeating centuries-old arguments over and over again as if
they’ve never been responded to, and to discourage anyone from looking
into Marxism or reading Marx, Lenin, Mao, etc.
—aimixin