So, after some playing around trying to figure out a preferred physical layout, I decided a Hillside 46 splayed keyboard would be about right. Thanks to Leo at Beekeeb for answering all my questions before ordering and during the build! Surface mount soldering was tricky, but everything works on the first try! I finally can use Dvorak with keycaps in the right place. Keymapping is a work in progress as I am getting used to this, and I am still trying to figure out how to get my Unicode characters to display in Linux (though for the Mac they show up fine). Now for lots of practice to build up new muscle memory, and develop a lighter touch so I don’t keep inputting command characters unintentionally.

  • g6d3np81@kbin.social
    4·
    11 months ago

    trying to figure out a preferred physical layout

    How to even do this? I can’t wrap my head around what or how many to consider.
    Use to work a lot with graphic tablet and belkin n52 (later nostromo) and wanted something that combine functional keyboard and left-handed pad. Got ErgodoxEZ few years ago… now I vaguely know that I want something smaller and more portable (maybe wireless and scroll wheel)… but layout? Absolutely no idea.

    • Tefinite Dev@lemmy.world
      3·
      11 months ago

      I think I’m going to try 3d printing an ergogen case with the keys extruded to check the layout before committing on my next keyboard

      • evranch@lemmy.ca
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        11 months ago

        I did exactly this while planning my Manuform build, and again with 3d printed keycaps in various profiles to find the best profile for its odd dished shape. I’m glad I did it as I made quite a few tweaks to it before printing the final product.

  • donnachaidh@lemmy.dcmrobertson.com
    4·
    11 months ago

    That’s quite an interesting layout. Is the vertical thumbkey easy to press? And what’s the right arrow you’ve got in both thumb clusters? Does having a letter key on the thumb feel natural?

    • MouldyC@slrpnk.netOP
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      11 months ago

      Haha. I had a stock set of keycaps, which didn’t have great options for my layout. I’ve mostly got the thumb clusters mirrored, with space(the right arrows), enter(enter/heart) and tabs on both sides (and backspace and delete mirrored). Left cluster has ESC, with right cluster having a Function layer switch on hold(the F key). I’ve got layer switch on hold for several of those thumb keys as well. The vertical thumbkey is not the easiest, which is why I put the tab keys there as I don’t use them that often. When I clean my keymaps up I’ll share an image. I feel the thumb clusters are larger than ideal for me. The board is setup to allow for Rotary encoders in those vertical thumb positions, and if I can find a suitable low profile knob I may end up swapping for a couple.

      • donnachaidh@lemmy.dcmrobertson.com
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        11 months ago

        Aha. That all makes perfect sense. I wouldn’t personally have so much duplication, though, and get shift & modkeys on the thumbs to make easy combos, but it’s fine if you want them elsewhere. Do you use function keys that often? I just realised I use them so much I forgot to setup a layer for them, but that at least seems like it could go on one of the pinky keys. And a rotary encoder there would make heaps of sense.

        • MouldyC@slrpnk.netOP
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          11 months ago

          Ha! I rarely use them. I also forgot a layer for them until I was reviewing what I had. I also used a minus keycode without the underscore on shift…and editing my keymaps became a bit rough. Yeah, I don’t think I’m going to need the duplication, and my right and left thumbs have different resting positions, so I’ll probably change things up as I’m finding I only use my right thumb for space and enter.

  • bane_killgrind@kbin.social
    41·
    11 months ago

    I finally can use Dvorak with keycaps in the right place

    Scrub

    This doesn’t even matter because some games hardcode keyboard position

    Do you know how many hours it took me to figure out “T” to inspect in Baldur’s Gate 3???

  • tubbytwins@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    11 months ago

    Nice work! It’s good to see a fellow Dvorak user. The Hillside keyboards have always looked interesting to me.

    Have fun on your keymap journey! Don’t be afraid to experiment with different choices, especially for the thumb keys, mods, macros, combos, sticky keys, etc.

    • MouldyC@slrpnk.netOP
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      11 months ago

      Haha. I might have to move my command/alt/shift/ctrl keys down to the thumb clusters. I mostly like the miryoku layout with them on the home row, but sloppy rolls with A-T or S-T combinations (CMD-T) keep opening new tabs, and I’m getting grumpy. No violence yet. Maybe I can fix that by increasing the time before the hold activates.

      • MouldyC@slrpnk.netOP
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        10 months ago

        And thanks to Suraj Kurapati’s own issues and config modifications (https://sunaku.github.io/home-row-mods.html) along with a lighter touch in my typing, typing is much cleaner now for me, with only very rare mods being inadvertently triggered. Very happy with how things are going. Now for a wireless version.