I’ll start, I missed the outdoor cats struggle session so i don’t know what its deal was except a vague idea that outdoor cats were bad, so I’ve let my two cats stay being outdoor cats because I feel bad locking them inside, like I want to give them some experience of freedom to go where they please so they can live more fulfilling lives

Edit: also kruschev is imo a lot better than most hexbear users give him credit for

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      Because actually using a wet cloth to scrub something gets it cleaner than just putting soap on it then rinsing. If you think you’re doing a good job scrubbing with your fingers, you aren’t getting nearly as much coverage as you’d get in half the time with a rag.

      also exfoliation.

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          There you go. That’s the spirit. Now we got the struggle sesh.

          wiping themselves with a bacteria rag

          Gonna blow your mind here: you wash them.

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          Its not a matter of abrasion or exfoliation, so much as friction. Soap helps but the primary cleaning mechanism in any shower or bath is manually scrubbing dirt particles away. A washcloth or loofah is objectively better than your hands or a raw bar of soap.

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            Objectively better at doing what? What goal are you trying to achieve? Does it reduce rates of skin infection? Improve skin health? Make you live longer? Make you happier? It really sounds like conformity to an arbitrary cultural perception of “cleanness” that isn’t related to any actual health or sanitary issues, but rather, dare I say, artificially created by loofah companies to sell more loofahs (which, as biological planet material, are subject to decay and harboring bacteria!)

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              Objectively better at doing what?

              Removing dirt

              What goal are you trying to achieve?

              Clean balls

              Does it reduce rates of skin infection? Improve skin health? Make you live longer? Make you happier?

              Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, and also you can wear it as a hat.

              It really sounds like conformity to an arbitrary cultural perception of “cleanness” that isn’t related to any actual health or sanitary issues.

              I bet you dont use a bidet either.

              but rather, dare I say, artificially created by loofah companies to sell more loofahs

              I grew mine guerilla gardening in the sump pond a condemned ampartment complex. The complex is condemned because i released native bedbugs and sprayed community-sourced MRSA on the doorhandles in an act of anti-landlord praxis. The loofa gourds are not native however, and have started choking out the grasses of the local dogpark. This is a double blow against DSA PMC gentrification and i am a better leftist than you. I will send you loofa seeds by COD mail. You will grow them. You do not have a choice in this.

              which, as biological planet material, are subject to decay and harboring bacteria!

              I bet you’re not composting your drain-hair either.

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        These are baseless assertions - Your skin is covered in a layer of oils and skin that will capture your grime, and will naturally come off with hands and soap in running warm water. Unless you’re regularly covered in like glue or you’re showering every hour then using your hands will absolutely work to the same efficacy.

        Exfoliation happens naturally, it does not need artificially scrubbing and materials unless you have a medical condition. My own baseless assertion is that scrubbing with a sponge or rag will remove more oils or skin than you should and instead expose and dry out your skin, making it worse.

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      Just wash it with your towels. And loofahs that you never wash just turn into big bacteria sponges that you smear all over your body