• const_void@lemmy.ml
    913·
    10 months ago

    No idea why people use and recommend Brave when Firefox exists. It’s full of crypto and other unnecessary add-ons out of the box.

    • medium_adult_son [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      Since it is based on Chromium, but promises to keep the new Google tracking out in the future and maintain compatibility with extensions, I can see why it would be recommended. But only as a backup to access a site that won’t load in Firefox.

      we’re back to the days when Firefox first came out, except instead of some websites only working with IE, they’ll only work in Chrome/Edge.

    • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
      53·
      10 months ago

      Firefox still doesn’t have vertical tabs which I’ve found really useful for my workflow right now, so I use a fork called Pulse. Don’t want to use any extensions for it when Pulse and other forks do it natively.

      • ferralcat@monyet.cc
        102·
        10 months ago

        There’s a million add-ons that add this, isn’t there? I have one installed at home that basically makes it into what arc has

        • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
          23·
          10 months ago

          Probably, but between the disabling of userChrome.css (even if you can enable it via about:config) and a possible conflict between other addons I use, I’m comfy with my Pulse setup.

      • Reborn2966@feddit.it
        41·
        10 months ago

        sorry, why not tree style tabs?

        you can hide the normal tab bar and only have the tree style ones on the side

        • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
          32·
          10 months ago

          I explain it in another comment, tl;dr: have to edit userChrome.css to give it a more streamlined look (and Mozilla calls that feature “legacy” in about:config since v69 which kinda worries me about that feature’s removal) and I’m not sure if some extensions might conflict (Would it have issues with Simple Tab Groups). Pulse does it natively and really well, so I’m happy with it.

      • dejf@kbin.social
        21·
        10 months ago

        I know it’s most likely not relevant with you anymore, since you’re using Pulse, but have you tried any of the vertical/tree tab extensions?

        • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
          32·
          10 months ago

          I used Tree Style Tab but I didn’t like having to change the userChrome.css to make it streamlined (i.e. hiding the tab bar), while Pulse does it natively and really well. I do have an extension for tab groups that imitates Vivaldi’s tab workspaces though, not sure if those will conflict. (If you’re curious, it’s called Simple Tab Groups.)

          Edit: There’s also the issue of Mozilla calling the editable userChrome.css a legacy feature, which kinda worries me about its possible removal. Pulse having vertical tabs as a native feature skips that.

    • Kayn@dormi.zoneEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Brave has marketed itself more aggressively than Firefox did.

      Additionally, Firefox’ most devoted userbase can be quite bitter at times.

        • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
          2·
          10 months ago

          Orion apparently allows extensions like uBlock Origin. Not sure if anyone has put it to the test but superficially, its there. Hard to tell where Orion ends and uBlock Origin begins since it seems adept at dealing with fingerprinting and other niceties by itself

          • ferralcat@monyet.cc
            21·
            10 months ago

            You can’t download and run code on iOS, which is pretty much the definition of an extension. You could ship some extensions “with” your browser, but at that point they’re just a feature. iOS has adblocking addons at the system level though, doesn’t it?

            • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
              2·
              10 months ago

              Ya, the extension aspects of iOS are a headache in terms of understanding everything. I look forward to liberalisation of 3rd party browsers allowed and any consequent innovation on mobile browsing.

    • Praeceptorem666@relyma.club
      330·
      10 months ago

      Says it comes with unnecessary add-ons Comes with 0 unnecessary add-ons

      Bravephobes are now just making shit up Lol

      • const_void@lemmy.ml
        353·
        10 months ago
        • Brave Rewards
        • Brave Talk
        • Brave Search
        • Brave News
        • Brave Wallet

        Yeah, such a light and lean browser…

        • Praeceptorem666@relyma.club
          331·
          10 months ago

          All of that Firefox has its equivalents as well as some of that being untrue as they’re search engines not websites etc

          • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
            231·
            10 months ago

            Brave has adware and bloat preinstalled, firefox doesn’t even have something similar to this.

              • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
                51·
                10 months ago

                Why are you gaslighting so hard. Just lookup what adware is. It has literally preinstalled crypto marketing widget that you need to disable or smth and also provide a opt-in ads for crypto solution that has opt-out “Gift the tokens to the page that has no wallet”

                • Praeceptorem666@relyma.club
                  17·
                  10 months ago

                  When one makes a claim like that when nothing indicated such things, its accepted in the community of behavioral analysis that it was a projection. Bravephobes love making shit up Lol

            • Praeceptorem666@relyma.club
              14·
              10 months ago

              BR = Ads like all browsers except off by default and it pays you

              BT = Nothing, not part of the browser

              BS = That’s just a fucking search engine. What browser doesn’t come with one Lol

              BW = FF also has “bloat” like phishing protection except the wallet is actually useful and isn’t just a censorship tool

  • Depress_Mode@lemmy.world
    222·
    10 months ago

    Just yesterday I was searching for photos in Brave. Right from the outset without clicking on anything, there was a huge, unclosable banner taking up a third of the screen that was an ad for Etsy or something. I tried to go to settings to change it to how it was before, but I was confronted with another ad in the settings:

    “Want ad-free search results? Upgrade to Search Premium™ today!”

    Time to finally make that switch to Firefox, I guess.

  • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
    151·
    10 months ago

    They should’ve done what they did with the YouTube ads and told the user to block this ad using their browser as well.

    • CritiGalDesist∞OP
      51·
      10 months ago

      Both (all) ads are bad though. I would rather have none of them while surfing the web. NextDNS and uBlock has been such a friend over the years for me regarding that 🥰

        • CritiGalDesist∞OP
          51·
          10 months ago

          Advertisement directly injected into the video stream (such as Twitch/Netflix) can be harder to block for any current adblockers

            • CritiGalDesist∞OP
              1·
              10 months ago

              I’m hopeful something like Sponsorblock will show up for (twitch and others) and save the day

                • CritiGalDesist∞OP
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Didn’t had any issue with it so far. Not sure what you’re facing though. It just has some basic setup (nothing complicated). Maybe look to one of the step-by-step guide on the internet to find out where things are going wrong?

  • yokonzo@lemmy.world
    5·
    10 months ago

    The other big irony is that if google gets rid of ad blockers on chromium browsers, brave is chromium

  • pluja@lemmy.world
    41·
    10 months ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong but, I think Brave Ads are opt-in. I have brave installed (although I use Librewolf as my main browser) and I’ve never seen an ad, you just need to disable them from the settings. Ads are just for those who want to earn BAT (the weird crypto token) by seeing ads.

    • CritiGalDesist∞OP
      1·
      10 months ago

      I can assure you the BAT token (Brave Rewards) is disabled here. And which other settings are you referring to?