• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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      11 months ago

      Okay but, counterpoint, cars kill kids.

      Edit, so I don’t have to keep repeating myself, and because this is important fucking information:

      https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/

      Passenger vehicles are by far the most dangerous motorized transportation option compared. Over the last 10 years, passenger vehicle death rate per 100,000,000 passenger miles was over 20 times higher than for buses, 17 times higher than for passenger trains, and 595 times higher than for scheduled airlines.Other comparisons are possible based on passenger trips, vehicle miles, or vehicle trips, but passenger miles is the most commonly used basis for comparing the safety of various modes of travel.

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        Buses kill kids too. Trains too. Airplanes too. Let’s get rid of transportation.

        Or is it about the numbers all of the sudden?

        You’ve got to be a special level of dumb to think that anything in life has zero risk. Even food kills kids under certain circumstances.

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          11 months ago

          https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/

          Passenger vehicles are by far the most dangerous motorized transportation option compared. Over the last 10 years, passenger vehicle death rate per 100,000,000 passenger miles was over 20 times higher than for buses, 17 times higher than for passenger trains, and 595 times higher than for scheduled airlines. Other comparisons are possible based on passenger trips, vehicle miles, or vehicle trips, but passenger miles is the most commonly used basis for comparing the safety of various modes of travel.

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              11 months ago
              1. “Per 100,000,000 passenger miles”. It’s literally right there.

              2. Name anything else we do that kills more kids. I will wait.

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                  11 months ago

                  You’ve said, “You suck at abstraction” to two people now who’ve explained very clearly what’s wrong with your understanding of the study. If you can’t be bothered to explain yourself nobody will know what you mean.

                  It’s hard to see how “quality of life” can be balanced against enormous numbers of people killed, but it sounds like you can’t name anything that kills more kids? Maybe because there is nothing? Maybe this is a huge problem and saying, “cars kill kids” is actually pretty valid?

                  Cars are terrible for quality of life unless you live rurally. Not only are they massively wasteful, their highways cut swathes through communities, they create noise pollution, they dominate our landscape and rob us of communal spaces, and they cause urban sprawl and force us into enormous and stessful commutes.

                  There is no part of our lives that is made better by cars. You can’t just say “quality of life” and expect that to mean anything unless, again, you explain yourself. You don’t seem interested in doing that though.

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      11 months ago

      If the leading cause of death globally 4-15 year olds is car accidents then it’s not a dirty play IMO.