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    Banning a powerful billionaire that fans dangerous right-wing sentiments from a game streaming site is, in fact, not oppression.

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      What does he do exactly to cause any harm or incite it in anyway? I’m still trying to find the quote/video/clip.

      For clarity, I am not a US Citizen. I don’t really oppose or favor either side. I think they’re both twisted and fucked in the head. But I like to be up to date.

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        Well for one he called my people “rapists”, he’s been incredibly active on Twitter spewing sinophobic nonsense and conspiracy theories about China to fuel the new Cold War, he’s dogwhistled toward the Proud Boys (notably during his debate with Biden), he instituted the xenophobic Muslim Ban, he’s still lying about how the election was stolen, and a bunch of other things while his administration continued the imperialist and neoliberal efforts of past administrations like continuing drone strikes, keeping troops abroad and increasing the military budget, and attempting coups, this case in Venezuela.

        I don’t really oppose or favor either side. I think they’re both twisted and fucked in the head.

        Favoring no one means you favor the status quo, meaning the current capitalist-imperialist hegemony. If you can’t see a difference between “both sides”, you’re really not looking hard enough.

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          Working on my next reply, I am assuming you’re from South of the border of the US?

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        He repetitively falsely claimed that the election was staged, defended white racism on multiple occasions. He never explicitly stated “Go kill people”, but he encouraged it indirectly on multiple occasions.

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            As I said, he never explicitly said “go kill people”, but he made it clear that it was what he wanted. He has made it clear repetitively that he was fine with violence:

            • the “very fine people” at Charlotsville (who killed one person)
            • the proud boys told to “stand back and stand by”

            Also, what do you expect happens when people that have been brainwashed into believing that the opposing party is full of baby eating satanists, that the election was completely stolen, that Trump is the only one that will save the country, and that he has been telling repetitively telling that they are the strongest etc… go to protest?

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              He’s condemning any violence and asking for it to stop. Sure he may have said those things but he still hasn’t incited any violence which is why he got impeached. It seems to be a bogus claim just to get him out, and his dumb ass followers are making it easy to do. I am just going by logic and facts, not by maybes.

              By the sounds of it, the US needs to protest for a different reason - to get a competent person in office. Trump is a moron in it for himself, and Biden is just a puppet/messenger for the corrupt people that have been running the country for decades. You’ve got the smartest people on the planet in your country and these are the 2 dinks you land on. It’s kind of ridiculous.

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                Sure he may have said those things but he still hasn’t incited any violence

                That’s literally what he is doing by saying those things.

                He’s condemning any violence and asking for it to stop.

                When ?

                I am just going by logic and facts, not by maybes.

                It is a fact that communication involves much more than what a basic transcript could make people understand. What you don’t say matters as much as what you say. Context matters also. The fact is, he encouraged the radicalisation of his voters. By refusing to acknowledge that the racism (which he took part in) and white supremacy, he encouraged it. Any sane person would have asked them to stop. But he didn’t, even when asked to, so his base took it as him supporting them (because there is no way to do so explicitly).

                You’ve got the smartest people on the planet in your country

                That’s true, but only because I’m french :p.

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                  How though? Not one time did he say to do anything violent. He said march in numbers, and show strength. If a bunch of people take that as “STORM THE CAPITOL”, that’s not his problem. I am looking at his words in quotes and I just don’t see it.

                  He condemned them on Twitter before he got banned believe it or not. This is fact.

                  French as in not in the US?

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            are likely just the autists of the collective

            You should really take the time to think before speaking, and have a bit of respect for other people.

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              I don’t and honestly don’t want to have respect for anyone that harms another individual for the sole purpose of causing chaos, attacks their own democracy, causes harm to local businesses, or hates on another person for their Political beliefs. I think it’s absurd. I could be biased being in Canada. Over here we don’t hate on each other based on Political beliefs because it’s fucking stupid to do that.

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                  I know what you were talking about. I stand by it too. Who here is resorting to name-calling in this post? I’m not insulting you. Unless you’re one of the people who is rioting. In which case I don’t really care. What happened here? Thought we were having a good conversation. With that being said, bye.