• happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The moment they give me a gun, I’d shoot the guy who gave me the gun and the guy who told him to give me a gun. Make Officers Fragged Again.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      You’d probably want to wait at least a few minutes in that hypothetical unless you were seeking to just be shot by either the second guy or the third guy.

      Also, bullets are traceable and fragging worked well in Vietnam because it wasn’t.

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          When you have a very narrow range of possibilities, circumstantial and incomplete evidence is very useful both in genuine epistemology and in pinning someone so you have a sacrificial lamb for the crime.

  • Puggo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    This is an op-ed by some crusty, old, retired Marine lieutenant colonel in a media site owned by Monster.com. Calling this an op-ed ran by the US military is a big stretch

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        People were warning of a draft at the beginning of the Iraq War, but they were always leftwing people. As far as I recall, liberals and conservatives knew better than to bring it up. The fact that an opinion like this is being published anywhere is concerning, and it shows the intensifying contradictions of capitalism. The military needs more guys for imperialism, but that means less labor for small and medium businesses to exploit at home. On top of that, the population has been devastated by covid in order to enrich pharmaceutical companies. The USA’s different economic interests are tearing it apart.

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          I think Nixon was pretty savvy; I think he knew the opposition to the war among young Americans was more about the draft than it was concern and solidarity with the people of Southeast Asia (though this was certainly a part of it for the socialist and communist opposition). Once he started to wind down the draft, open opposition to the war diminished.

          Arguably the most prominent anti-war song, Fortunate Son, is more about how it’s unfair that the kids of the rich weren’t dying in Vietnam, not that the war itself was immoral.

  • LeZero [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Ah yes, public pressure keeping leaders accountable, a common occurrence in the US

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    kidnap me from my wife and children and force me into some trench with proles who speak a different language, and I will frag the fuck out of you, this has been a public service announcement

  • Quimby [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    I will say, bringing back the draft, in full, might make the average citizen a little less bloodthirsty. Easier to be pro war knowing that your kids will be safe at home.

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      I mean it makes logical sense but we just watched everyone collectively agree it was worth killing our grandmas so they can reopen baskin-robins so I’m not sure iit will.

  • cosecantphi [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    wondering if i should just do the passive resistance thing and eat a prison sentence, or if i should go with it until i’m overseas, frag my commanding officer first chance i get, then defect to the other side

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      Depends who we’re fighting for me. Try to send me to fuckin France or some wacky bullshit like that and I’m just not going. But China or Korea or whatever? Better believe I’m defecting asap

      Hypothetically of course, I don’t think the US will ever try to draft me lol

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    I swear to fucking god if this actually goes through and Americans don’t burn every city in this country to the ground over it I will turn into a 3rd world Maoist on the spot