I really only once built my own pc and that was years ago. Now i finally have a nice job and have around a budget of 2k € to buy a pc. Im from europe, so no american prices for me.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7YFBj
A friend of mine said maybe another CPU would be better? The reason i chose a watercooler was to get it very quiet. Does that achieve that? Do they have other issues i should be aware of?
I only will use this pc for gaming and watching movies. Nothing much more. I dont want a curved screen, but i dont even know if i need 165 Hz. I play shooters but only casually.
Thanks for the input already :)
EDIT:
new list without the much recommended 7800X3D but at least it keeps me under 2k€ and there is an upgrade of the GPU. I also thought about going only 27’’ but i really would like one bigger screen to watch movies.
I looked at the benchmark of the 7700 and the 7800x3d from cpumonkey and they seemed very similar with the one being somewhere better than the other and vice versa. So maybe not that much of a difference or wrong?
If you are second-guessing about the CPU, you can’t go wrong with the 7800X3D. It is more expensive yes, but also a beast. With that you don’t have to upgrade for many years.
You have 64 GBs of RAM. 32GBs i more than enough, unless you do heavy video editing or other reaaally professional stuff. You should take 32GBs and use that money for better CPU or GPU.
I have been using Nvidia for a long time and haven’t had time to get into AMD scene, so I really can’t give any input on your choice of GPU.
Water cooling is not necessarily better than air cooling. Check out this video by JayzTwoCents for input: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ3c0kspOb8
Be sure to buy a fan for rear exhaust! I didn’t see one preinstalled in the case.
And lastly about the monitor. You probably could get a cheaper FreeSync monitor. Be sure to check extensive reviews that test all aspects of the monitor. That means no reviews from PC Gamer etc.
32GB is more than enough memory for now and some years, better to go with faster than more i would say. You could always put in more sticks later.
There are a lot of good inputs in this threads, I agree with them: going for the 7800X3D will be a good investment and it will last you longer.
I would look into maybe saving money on the case, I think Corsair may have cheaper ones (and actually easier to access).
For memory, 64GB is hardly required unless you know you need it (heck, I have 196gb).
This current version of Ryzen is also hard to get with faster memory if you do more than 2 sticks, I know someone mentioned adding more memory later, but it may not be possible if you would like to keep the speed.
Monitor wise, 144, 165hz won’t really make a difference. You must decide on the resolution, capabilities (HDR) and etc. I went with 3x Innocn 32M2V, they have some issues but are perfect for what I need. Unfortunately, to drive the monitors, you need a fairly good graphics card to play at 4k with everything turned up. At 2560x1440 I think your graphics card is the right one (I just think 32" 1440p is too much, but that’s my personal opinion).
Good luck!
I wouldn’t go with watercooling as the pump can be even more noisy (had 2 AIOs, both pumps were louder than any fans) so I would go with a good heatsink, like Noctua NH-D15 or be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4. 64GB ram is a lot, unless you need it specifically for something I would go with 32GB and also for 2k€ PC I would downgrade CPU to R5 7600X and put the saved money to better GPU. (Slightly better GPU with slightly worse CPU = better fps on most titles than vice versa)
And what comes to monitors it’s just preference on what quality and features you want. If you play a lot of “cinematic” titles I would go for better image quality over refresh rate, and have some form of variable refresh rate so you don’t need to sacrfice too much game graphical quality for smooth fps. And if you have never had monitor with high refresh rate don’t go too high at first because there is no coming back.
Otherwise seems like a decent build
Which GPU would you recommend? Thanks for the input, never had a water-cooler and I just want to quietest build possible since my old PC is huffing and puffing. Should I buy extra fans for the case too?
I’d go with 32GB CL30 6000MT instead. Also with that budget you should consider 7800X3D.
Someone wrote that a better GPU could be more important than a better CPU. True or not?
True right now. But if you decide say in 3-4 years to buy a new GPU you’ll have less or no CPU bottleneck. I’m not really sure, someone should confirm if difference between these CPUs is worth it.
I’m starting to learn about PC building so tagging along here as well (from the UK). Is there a reason why you took a micro atx motherboard with a mid ATX case?
Those mATX’s are usually cheaper than ATX ones, since those don’t have as many slots for cards.
Could also be that this particular board has features that OP didn’t find on an ATX board, like WiFi support.
Nice list. Water cooling is overall quieter and more efficient than just air cooling. The caveat is that AIO coolers are less efficient than their custom built counterparts. The problem with the AIO coolers mainly stem from how they transfer heat from the CPU, they are built to cover a wide range of different sockets and do not normally have a pump or reservoir and suffer because of it. A custom built loop, while expensive, is the only way around this. The AIO performance will be marginally better than air cooling while trying to keep noise levels low, best not to attempt much Nice list.
It is a good build with a lot of RAM, more than most people really need 32GB should do the trick unless you do a lot of Photo or Video editing or CAD even. The 6700XT is technically a “budget” GPU but performance can be considered lacking for the price point as its 4K can be a bit under powered. The power supply should be enough, always recommend the most efficient power supply you can afford as they have a tendency to last longer Gold rated being a minimum. You may want a little more storage besides the 2tb ssd cause it runs out quick but you can always add it later.
Pretty incorrect information. Aircooling > AIO any day of the week. Aircooling has been proven time and time again to give lower temps vs an AIO. see here Custom loop is a different story. It is also quieter and cheaper than an AIO. I’m not sure why you think an AIO doesn’t have a pump? How do you think the liquid flows through the lines, radiator and to the CPU, magic? The pump is what causes an AIO to be louder than its air cooled counterpart. The only argument for AIO is aesthetics which is a fair argument.
The 64GB of RAM is absolutely overkill for gaming so 32GB is fine. A 850W PSU is also definitely overkill for a 6700 XT so could drop it down to a 750W and still have room for upgrading the GPU in future.
The 6700 XT is the best price-performance GPU you can buy right now with the current ridiculous prices. It’s target is for 1440p gaming so your comment about 4K is irrelevant especially since he has picked a 1440p monitor.
I would go 32gb ram, and put the saved money into a better cooler. I have exact same and keeps my 5600x under wraps pretty well but don’t know how well it would fare with much more powerful CPUs, haven’t looked into any further benches since I bought it. For the case, I wouldn’t cheapen out too much. Case thermal performance is important too. Otherwise good build. Any reason why choosing Win10 over Win11?
Everything looks good. It’s a little too cookie cutter but then again its cookie cutter because it works so well.
Awesome choice on the video card. Anything they isn’t Nvidia is awesome right now! They need to know they can’t just charge whatever the hell want and have it paid.
Why are you buying a new 6700xt? You can either wait for the 7700xt, which is launching soon, or get one 2nd hand for half the price …
As you are from germany, you could use geizhals.at for the cheapest prices. If you are not in abruah to buy it, you should use the price notification aswell.
Many have mentioned the 7800x3d. The 5800x3d is more like your budget and perfect for gaming. Currently almost the same performance.
I am, and yes I’m def gonna use Geizhals or Idealo or something like that.
I might wait till Christmas to buy since I read that there the prices are gonna be the best.
Is the 5800x3d good if I wanna use the same PC for a while? I don’t wanna get into VR or anything like that
While the 7800x3d should do a great job for the next 7 or so years, I believe the 5800x3d should be fine for 5 years in terms of not bottlenecking you.
You actually have a very solid pc picked out. I’d say the other details needed would be what quality you want to play the games at. You’re likely good with the 6700 xt if you don’t want to max every game and get the 165hz to match the monitor. If you’re not trying to push the envelope while on a budget, I’d feel very good with that part list.
Agree. Great parts list. The only thing I’m not 100% sure on is RAM because I have not kept up with CPU performance given different DDR5 specs, but I figure someone else would point it out if there was any misconfiguration there (such as when you see someone get a 3000MHz DDR4 kit for a Ryzen processor).
The fall off on ram performance vs cost is to the point where it’s not worth spending extra money. That kit picked out will be good.
Good to hear. I remember during Zen2 a $10 price difference in RAM could be 5-10% performance because it just ate the hell out of fast RAM.
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If your main goal is to play games and watch movies I would make some changes, mainly in order to be able to use your budget and focus it on your video card, of course, I would like the opinion of others, as everyone prioritizes different things.
The important thing is that I am not from Europe, so I do not know what are the exact prices.
With the CPU I would change it for the ryzen 5 7600, ryzen 7 is just overkill and expensive for games, I would prefer to use the extra 100 euros in the GPU, for the X and non X version depends on the price difference
If what you want is silence, I would go for an air cooler, be quiet, noctua or deeplcool are good options (dark pro 4, nh-u2 and ak620 are popular), water-coolers have pumping noises
Ram memory, I would go for 32gb, in this case 2x16gb, this is a good amount for the moment.
I think you can save a little bit on the motherboard, but it’s a matter of taste and I think your choice is fine.
The case is a matter of functionality and aesthetics, but I think you can also save a little here, I personally would go for the Corsair 4000D Airflow.
And the rest of the budget, I would put it in the best video card you can afford according to your budget.
The truth is that I think this would be the best option, since having a budget of 2k € with the 6700xt is just a bad build, for example a few weeks ago I made a build for a friend with a budget of 1k that used that video card and his only focus was to play games.
(edited) Adding link to a build example I just made, trying to use some parts that you choose: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kcpKHG
I just chose the Ryzen 7 because I wanted a build that last a long time. Many people in the post recommended the x3d version of my CPU.
I think I will change to air-cooling. Thanks for the input.
I don’t care about the motherboard as long as it does it’s job. I just don’t need wifi since I have a lan cable.
I just chose the case because i like the front. It looks so cool in my opinion. I also would like a white case.
Thanks for the link, I might choose your GPU.
I can understand the recommendation of x3d, it is a monster of a CPU, but more in the 0.1% and 1% loads, the importance of this will depend a lot on what you prefer, and as I said, where you want to put the strength of your budget, and if you want to game in 1440p the gpu is a lot more important than the cpu.
I also love that case you chose, in fact it is one of my favorite cases and I would love it to be available in my country, but I changed the case to be able to stick to the 2k budget and add a better GPU, also the Corsair one have a white version (and if you like to make a white build I think I need to change some component to stick to your goal aesthetics).
But here comes my personal recommendation from having done different builds over a long time (and possibly the bias of being from a third world country). I still find that the recommendation of Ryzen 7 and Intel i7 for gaming, because it will last longer is a bit exaggerated, if you have a budget, you should stick to it. And you have to know where to have compromises, for example if you go for a ryzen 7 because you say, well I am already spending 2k, adding that 100 or 150 euros is not much, but then I would say, well if you are going to add that extra 100 to 150 euros, you might as well raise your GPU budget, and the 2k budget then becomes 2.5k and so on forever.
Also as a personal experience, one often has the idea of improving your build in the future (I include myself in this), but all the times I have improved my build, I end up regretting it, the times I have not had regrets have been when I sold the entire build, to buy a new one.
So I think the best thing is. Buy the best you can with the budget you currently have for your particular goal, and for the future you buy a new build selling what you have, because in 3 to 6 more years that ryzen 7 could not age well (no one know).
Sorry for the length of this message, I just got a little motivated writing, in the end it will be your opinion that matters, and anything, I’m here to help. It should be said that there are many different prioritizations when building computers, I think you will have to find yours and that is gained with experience and possibly making mistakes.
Hey, thanks for your message. Sticking to a budget is definitly something i should keep in mind.
I actually checked the case again and it wasnt even the right one. I really like the Meshify, but i guess almost every case from fractal design looks nice. I shifted around some parts from my build and i have the pc with the ryzen 7 (non x3d) and the RX 6900 XT under 2k. What do you think about it? here
I looked at a comparison of the two Ryzen 7 and they seemed very similar. I guess if I wanna stick to the 2k€ I will just get the cheaper one
Nice build, I didn’t think you could add a ryzen 7 in that budget, but I realized that the video card I added was way more expensive than it should be.
Something to look out for, that case if I remember correctly is a bit short, and I think you might have problems with the new video cards which are quite large, you would have to check compatibility, but I think the numbers that web pages shows, are without front fans.
Now I made some changes to the build, tell me what you think, I think there will be some good surprises in this new build, I went over 15 euros, but there are options to lower it. For example, the MoBo that you send is cheaper, and there is also a good seasonic psu for 100 euros (semi modular)
here is the updated list.
is that psu also good? I think its kinda awesome that we got everything into the budget and found some improvements :D thanks dude
A year ago there was a drama with the gigabyte psu exploding, I don’t know how they are nowadays. With the 6900 xt is recommended a 850W psu, I imagine that 750W is enough, but sometimes it’s better to be sure.
The psu brands that are recommended are seasonic, corsair and evga(of course there are more brands recommended, but these are always my priority), If I remember correctly the corsair ones are really seasonic with a rebranding.
With the case, remember to check if the video card will fit, I see it has 5 mm of free space, but try to make a double check.
I think I heard about the PSU drama. I might choose the seasonic one then. I just thought that the estimates of PCPartPicker actually help with choosing an PSU, which was around 520 w and if I have a bit more than that it should be enough.
Hmmm only 5 mm free space is kind of a thight fit tbh. If something is a bit off, the slot for the GPU for example, then it won’t fit xD I just really like the case, but I might change for a roomier one
