I use all of these but I still have to use Google Voice and Maps because they are just superior to everything else that I have tried imo. And I sometimes use gmail too because certain website logins are locked to my old Gmail’s.
I always find it amusing how everyone makes these statements for Russian/Chinese software but never look at the government interest in Facebook, Google etc
… no shit bud, we’re litterally discussing alternatives to these platforms here. We know my dude. That’s why we’re finding alternatives.
Russia has one hell of alot more ability to do this to random pieces of tech in their control than the US by the way, same with china. That’s public and written into their laws. Not as much in the US.
Though, yes, finding a company outside of the 5 eyes is a good idea, we are not the “everyone” you’re talking about. Fuck man, we’re on lemmy for gods sake
Nope. I have met the team from OnlyOffice. Really good people. Always helpful and always friendly. And nothing is beneath them when it gets to support.
Calendar -NextCloud is needed to sync. On my Android I use simple calendar and the dav5x app connects it to my NextCloud to sync to it. The stock Calendar syncs to NextCloud on my iPhone.
Contacts - same exact setup as how I do Calendar. NextCloud is needed to sync. On my Android I use simple contacts and the dav5x app connects it to my NextCloud to sync to it. The stock contacts app syncs to NextCloud on my iPhone.
Maps - I absolutely loath organic maps. It never worked for me. I would put in a street name and address and it would never find it. I need stuff that works. So it’s Magic Earth most of the time and Google Maps if I’m really serious about getting somewhere and scared to get lost. Like if I’m in a sun down town or some shit like that.
Weather - I also use Geometric weather. Fantastic app!!!
Google Play store - When I first started degoogling, I tried to completely cut out the play store but then some apps that I paid for would never work. And they refused to accept any other form of payments. So I use the play store to download certain apps and then I block it with afwall+. I mostly use Obsidian and F-Droid
Google authenticator - I use 2fas. I like the browser extension and it just works seemlessly between my android, iphone, and desktop. It’s also now recently been open sourced.
Google messages - I also use simple sms. I really like the simple suite and how simple it is. I even use their dialer and gallery.
Gboard - is probably the very last Google app that I’ll get rid of. I’ve tried all the open sourced keyboards and none are as good. But I do have afwall+ blocking all outgoing connections on my Gboard. Gifs don’t even work.
You’re welcome. And yes Magic Earth is what I use. Maybe you skipped by it in my list. But sometimes I go back to Maps when I’m somewhere unknown and don’t want to get lost in the sauce lol
gotcha, I did skip to the bottom and see the bit about still using g00gly maps. been on graphene os for about 18-19 months now and Magic Earth keeps getting better and better.
task.org seems to be an oldschool under-construction page, do you mean tasks.org? Also is there a reason you specifically recommend OpenOffice instead of LibreOffice or Collabora Office?
Yes it’s tasks.org. I misspelled it. Also, I use only office in conjunction with collabora. I self host the only office server straight from a docker container on my PC. I always get open office and only office mixed up.
Maybe something changed recently, but it’s not like keep from what I remember. Keep has easy to use lists, embedded images, card layout. I do love the simplicity of markdown though.
There’s many ways to do notes. Here’s the 3 ways that I tried. Keep in mind that I have iPhone, Android, and Windows Desktop and Windows Laptop… So I like options where it will sync seemlessly across all of those.
Tried obsidian. There was a feature that it was missing that made me completely give up on it. I forgot what it was but I remember it being something that all note taking apps should have. Like a no-brainer.
Then I tried NextCloud notes (desktop). Quillpad (android). Notebooks (iOS). Syncing between the 3 was terrible.
3a. Joplin. There’s an app for all 3 devices and so the user experience is the same everywhere. Used my NextCloud to sync and it worked amazing for a week. Then after that, I started getting sync errors every time.
3b. Made a free Dropbox account and switched my Joplin sync to that. Has been smooooooth sailing ever since. Also there’s a Backup add-on that exports all my notes to a folder on my desktop daily.
Google Voice - Cheogram
Search - Duck Duck Go or Start Page
Contacts - NextCloud
Calendar - NextCloud
Tasks - Task.Org
Keep - Joplin
Maps - Magic Earth
Passwords & Sign In - Bitwarden or Keepass
Docs & Sheets - Open Office
Gmail - Proton or Tutanota
Dialer - Simple Dialer
Files - Material Files
Chrome - Firefox
YouTube - Peertube
Photos - NextCloud
Bookmarks - NextCloud, Floccus, or XBrowsersync
I use all of these but I still have to use Google Voice and Maps because they are just superior to everything else that I have tried imo. And I sometimes use gmail too because certain website logins are locked to my old Gmail’s.
Not open office, use libre office.
Not Libra Office, Only Office. After all we are replacing Google, so we need integrated collab (without an RDP hack).
OnlyOffice is run by Russians.
Is everyone in Russia responsible for the actions of their government?
No, but totalitarian governments tend to get into everything, and a popular piece of software is something they will be interested in.
I always find it amusing how everyone makes these statements for Russian/Chinese software but never look at the government interest in Facebook, Google etc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
… no shit bud, we’re litterally discussing alternatives to these platforms here. We know my dude. That’s why we’re finding alternatives.
Russia has one hell of alot more ability to do this to random pieces of tech in their control than the US by the way, same with china. That’s public and written into their laws. Not as much in the US.
Though, yes, finding a company outside of the 5 eyes is a good idea, we are not the “everyone” you’re talking about. Fuck man, we’re on lemmy for gods sake
Nope. I have met the team from OnlyOffice. Really good people. Always helpful and always friendly. And nothing is beneath them when it gets to support.
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I think the Latvians would like a word with you for calling them Russian.
Run and owned by Russians, hq in Latvia. Just like so many companies have hq in Ireland.
Actually I use only office (not open office) with collabora apps on my android and iphone. I always get the two names mixed up.
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Good list but let me respond to a few of those.
Calendar -NextCloud is needed to sync. On my Android I use simple calendar and the dav5x app connects it to my NextCloud to sync to it. The stock Calendar syncs to NextCloud on my iPhone.
Contacts - same exact setup as how I do Calendar. NextCloud is needed to sync. On my Android I use simple contacts and the dav5x app connects it to my NextCloud to sync to it. The stock contacts app syncs to NextCloud on my iPhone.
Maps - I absolutely loath organic maps. It never worked for me. I would put in a street name and address and it would never find it. I need stuff that works. So it’s Magic Earth most of the time and Google Maps if I’m really serious about getting somewhere and scared to get lost. Like if I’m in a sun down town or some shit like that.
Weather - I also use Geometric weather. Fantastic app!!!
Google Play store - When I first started degoogling, I tried to completely cut out the play store but then some apps that I paid for would never work. And they refused to accept any other form of payments. So I use the play store to download certain apps and then I block it with afwall+. I mostly use Obsidian and F-Droid
Google authenticator - I use 2fas. I like the browser extension and it just works seemlessly between my android, iphone, and desktop. It’s also now recently been open sourced.
Google messages - I also use simple sms. I really like the simple suite and how simple it is. I even use their dialer and gallery.
Gboard - is probably the very last Google app that I’ll get rid of. I’ve tried all the open sourced keyboards and none are as good. But I do have afwall+ blocking all outgoing connections on my Gboard. Gifs don’t even work.
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onlyoffice is much more polished than openoffice or libreoffice but a bit less open
thank you so much for introducing me to cheogram. for maps try Magic Earth app based on openstreetmap.org
You’re welcome. And yes Magic Earth is what I use. Maybe you skipped by it in my list. But sometimes I go back to Maps when I’m somewhere unknown and don’t want to get lost in the sauce lol
gotcha, I did skip to the bottom and see the bit about still using g00gly maps. been on graphene os for about 18-19 months now and Magic Earth keeps getting better and better.
What about Collabora Office?
task.org seems to be an oldschool under-construction page, do you mean tasks.org? Also is there a reason you specifically recommend OpenOffice instead of LibreOffice or Collabora Office?
Yes it’s tasks.org. I misspelled it. Also, I use only office in conjunction with collabora. I self host the only office server straight from a docker container on my PC. I always get open office and only office mixed up.
Nextcloud has a notes feature now that is pretty much comparable to keep. Has its own app too
Maybe something changed recently, but it’s not like keep from what I remember. Keep has easy to use lists, embedded images, card layout. I do love the simplicity of markdown though.
I since converted to joplin, love it.
There’s many ways to do notes. Here’s the 3 ways that I tried. Keep in mind that I have iPhone, Android, and Windows Desktop and Windows Laptop… So I like options where it will sync seemlessly across all of those.
Tried obsidian. There was a feature that it was missing that made me completely give up on it. I forgot what it was but I remember it being something that all note taking apps should have. Like a no-brainer.
Then I tried NextCloud notes (desktop). Quillpad (android). Notebooks (iOS). Syncing between the 3 was terrible.
3a. Joplin. There’s an app for all 3 devices and so the user experience is the same everywhere. Used my NextCloud to sync and it worked amazing for a week. Then after that, I started getting sync errors every time.
3b. Made a free Dropbox account and switched my Joplin sync to that. Has been smooooooth sailing ever since. Also there’s a Backup add-on that exports all my notes to a folder on my desktop daily.
Interesting… Thanks for your insight! I’ll experiment with Joplin.
Photos - Immich
Cheogram just isn’t there yet for me. Can’t seem to make group chat work.
If you don’t need that, it seems fine.
Yea not there for me yet as well. That’s why I went back to Google Voice. Plus I have like 4 GV numbers lol
Duck Duck Go censors searches.
EDIT You can manually backup your bookmarks.