Some folks on the internet were interested in how I had managed to ditch Docker for local development. This is a slightly overdue write up on how I typically do things now with Nix, Overmind and Just.

  • Digital Mark@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I know you won’t believe this, but you don’t need any of these GTOS (giant towers of shit) to write & ship code. “Replace one GTOS with another” is a horizontal move to still using a GTOS.

    You can just install the dev tools you need, write code & libraries yourself, or maybe download one. If you don’t go crazy with the libraries, you can even tell a team “here’s the 2 or 3 things you need” and everyone does it themselves. I know Make is scary, with the mandatory tabs, but you can also just compile with a shell script.

    Deployment is packing it up in a zip and unzipping it on your server.

    • Jeezy@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      Lot’s of (incorrect) assumptions here and generally a very poorly worded post that doesn’t make any attempt to engage in good faith. These are the reasons for what I believe is my very first down-vote of a comment on Lemmy.

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        1 year ago

        You’re advocating switching to another OS with a complex package manager, to avoid using a package manager that’s basically a whole new OS. Giant Tower of Shit may be too generous for that.

        But I was of course correct, I said you wouldn’t believe it.

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          1 year ago

          nix does not need nixOS to run but is a complex package manager. At least for me, it doesn’t seem more complex than docker ecosystem.

          I personally use nix to take care of downloading compatible dependencies in isolation for me. And the rest of the code is really, just basic script shell or Makefile too.

          I also could add a fancy mergeShells function I have written in nix to support a docker-compose-like composition of nix-shell files. But you could go a very long way with nix before you even want to do something like this.

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          1 year ago

          Tutorial != advocation. As I said, no attempt to engage in good faith.

    • zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev
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      1 year ago

      Sometimes you need complex tools for complex problems. We just have a homegrown GTOS at my work instead, I wish we had something that made as much sense as Nix!