liberals are fully grown diaper babies with no real political knowledge
And chuds aren’t? There’s a weird tendency to blame libs and libs alone for things that conservatives also do in spades.
liberals are all immature
This is another version of “no reasonable person can possibly disagree with me,” which is exactly what “who hurt you,” “OK Boris,” and calling people bots is. Plenty of libs are mature and have thought out their opinions – they just have far different priors than we do, and/or have strong material incentives to believe what they believe.
liberalism is the dominant ideology so it makes sense that we spend the most energy trying to dispel their wrong and contradictory beliefs. most people aren’t ideological fascists.
priors
lmao.
libs aren’t mature people with well thought out opinions. they are people who hold contradictory and wrong opinions and lack the critical tools necessary to examine and break down and develop those beliefs. they uncritically think their beliefs are Right and Good because that’s what they are told by the dominant ideology. but they can learn. that’s why we focus on them. it’s fair to say lots of libs are “close to getting it” (at least the less ideologically committed ones who just never questioned the beliefs they were raised on) they just need an injection of dialectical materialism.
libs aren’t mature people with well thought out opinions.
Some certainly are. Shit, some conservatives are, too. “Everyone would agree with all of my correct, true opinions if they grew up and read what I read” is not a good take, even if maturity and education do help.
Plenty of people know how their bread is buttered and consciously support it. Writing off virtually all non-leftists as immature or uneducated is a serious mistake – other groups can make smart (for them) decisions, too.
ok enlightened centrist lol. liberalism and conservatism are both contradictory ideologies for dumb dumbs and are inherently regressive, how’s that. liberalism had its day of being a phase of progression but it’s time for it to go in the trash can of history. get back to me when you see the light of dialectical and historical materialism and realise Marxism-Leninism is the only alternative that’s fit for furthering the progression of humanity. but keep mounting a soft defense of conservatism if it gets you off or whatever
to your edit: evaluating an ideology should be done through the lens of how fit it is for accomplishing the universal liberation of all working and oppressed peoples. I don’t give a fuck if liberalism is a “smart” decision for some bougie mfs to protect their class interests. that doesn’t make it valid or good or worth any kind of justification. it’s at best a trite thing to point out
they’re trying to say that libs and conservatives are libs and conservatives because they’re crackers and get free pats from the empire for doing so, not that they’re actually morally right to be or have an equally valid perspective
I think it’s that you’re implying the actual ideological framework they claim to have is sound from their perspective, when it certainly isn’t. They basically just make shit up to justify their material motivations.
i think I got that I just think it’s a trite thing to point out around here and it falls flat anyway because it isn’t “smart” for fuckloads of Americans to be liberals or conservatives, the working masses of America would plainly be better off under socialism they just have propaganda brainworms about it. in most cases it’s not a “well thought out opinion” it’s just how citizens of the imperial core are successfully programmed to think
And chuds aren’t? There’s a weird tendency to blame libs and libs alone for things that conservatives also do in spades.
This is another version of “no reasonable person can possibly disagree with me,” which is exactly what “who hurt you,” “OK Boris,” and calling people bots is. Plenty of libs are mature and have thought out their opinions – they just have far different priors than we do, and/or have strong material incentives to believe what they believe.
liberalism is the dominant ideology so it makes sense that we spend the most energy trying to dispel their wrong and contradictory beliefs. most people aren’t ideological fascists.
lmao.
libs aren’t mature people with well thought out opinions. they are people who hold contradictory and wrong opinions and lack the critical tools necessary to examine and break down and develop those beliefs. they uncritically think their beliefs are Right and Good because that’s what they are told by the dominant ideology. but they can learn. that’s why we focus on them. it’s fair to say lots of libs are “close to getting it” (at least the less ideologically committed ones who just never questioned the beliefs they were raised on) they just need an injection of dialectical materialism.
Some certainly are. Shit, some conservatives are, too. “Everyone would agree with all of my correct, true opinions if they grew up and read what I read” is not a good take, even if maturity and education do help.
Plenty of people know how their bread is buttered and consciously support it. Writing off virtually all non-leftists as immature or uneducated is a serious mistake – other groups can make smart (for them) decisions, too.
ok enlightened centrist lol. liberalism and conservatism are both contradictory ideologies for dumb dumbs and are inherently regressive, how’s that. liberalism had its day of being a phase of progression but it’s time for it to go in the trash can of history. get back to me when you see the light of dialectical and historical materialism and realise Marxism-Leninism is the only alternative that’s fit for furthering the progression of humanity. but keep mounting a soft defense of conservatism if it gets you off or whatever
to your edit: evaluating an ideology should be done through the lens of how fit it is for accomplishing the universal liberation of all working and oppressed peoples. I don’t give a fuck if liberalism is a “smart” decision for some bougie mfs to protect their class interests. that doesn’t make it valid or good or worth any kind of justification. it’s at best a trite thing to point out
Claims to be a materialist, believes that the vast majority of Americans have no material basis for their politics and are just stupid
you are a dumb lib or a pretty boring troll. I wish you all the best in reading a book sometime
they’re trying to say that libs and conservatives are libs and conservatives because they’re crackers and get free pats from the empire for doing so, not that they’re actually morally right to be or have an equally valid perspective
edit: Nvm I don’t know what they’re saying
No, you understand perfectly. “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it” and all.
No idea why “this person makes money off this policy, so they have a material reason to support it” is suddenly a controversial concept
I think it’s that you’re implying the actual ideological framework they claim to have is sound from their perspective, when it certainly isn’t. They basically just make shit up to justify their material motivations.
i think I got that I just think it’s a trite thing to point out around here and it falls flat anyway because it isn’t “smart” for fuckloads of Americans to be liberals or conservatives, the working masses of America would plainly be better off under socialism they just have propaganda brainworms about it. in most cases it’s not a “well thought out opinion” it’s just how citizens of the imperial core are successfully programmed to think
Chuds are also liberals, except for the ones who are so extremely chud they go full monarchist