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    7 months ago

    What’s the difference? Genuine question, I don’t live in the US

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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        7 months ago

        The difference is that we have intermediary groups between the clubs; we don’t have a branch system and a district leadership covers a wider area.

        Also, I’m doubtful that the person is that familiar with CPUSA and I’m airing that doubt.

        • LesbianLiberty [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          7 months ago

          Anything I could do to prove I was in or affiliated with CPUSA is doxxable information, I’m not the same kind of person who posts about how he’s in the Northern Virginia CPUSA on their Lemmy account which also has god knows what other identifiable information

          My lackings in knowledge are areas which were not clarified for me appropriately while I tried to organize with CPUSA, right now I’m working with PSL because they do clarify these things and the people on the ground not only have more achievable goals and timeframes but are more widely connected in the local community. I say branch because that’s the lingo PSL uses, and I assumed that it simply wasn’t clarified for me while I was in CPUSA but clearly I’m not correct on that point, for what it matters.

          I’m not anti-CPUSA by any means, I’m an ML who merely wishes for there to be a sizable socialist movement in the US by whatever means; however my experience with CPUSA outside of major city centers like DC and NYC though was severely dissapointing and I advise others to join whatever ML group is largest in their area or work with another ML org if there is no ML group in their area.

          • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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            7 months ago

            From your previous comments, you are clearly anti-CPUSA and do not represent the majority of the membership, who I’ve spoken to.

            You even referred to something as simple as a “district” as a “branch,” which is explained from the very beginning. We don’t have a branch system. We go by wide swathes of areas called districts and then clubs and maybe collective if you go even smaller.

            So I really don’t believe you, no offense. It’s kind-of like saying that you don’t know who “William Z. Foster” is, tbh.

            No offense or anything.

            • LesbianLiberty [she/her]@hexbear.net
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              7 months ago

              Unfortunately these chauvanistic attitudes like this are what hold back an organization with much potential, and instead opens the doors for other ML parties. This series of districts, clubs, and collectives is indicative of an anarchy of organization, an unaddressable problem while CPUSA remains as muddled of an organization as it famously is. This muddled organization leads to a fundamentally unquestionable leadership.

              Despite intense criticism I even heard from members in NYC when I visited the party HQ (there was no Soviet gold in the basement, despite rumors), the self defeating policies and priorities of the CPUSA are not being changed at the pace they need to be to face the crisises we face head on. There’s a reason most images of Palestinian protest feature PSL signs, and that the last emails I received before unsubscribing from the CPUSA newsletter was an art competition.

              I ask that instead of dismissing well meaning criticism from fellow communists you take this criticism to mind and help make CPUSA become an organization worth championing instead of something which must be defended reluctantly.

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                7 months ago

                It’s not an anarchy of organization, but a hierarchy, actually.

                Also, the policies change every 4 to 5 years and have to as we’re a DemCent org.

                You must listen to well-meaning criticisms directed at you instead of dismissing them, comrade. Especially since you’re never been in the organization, afaik, and are critiquing it from an outside perspective.

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      7 months ago

      The difference is that we have intermediary groups between the clubs; we don’t have a branch system and a district leadership covers a wider area.