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    I agree with the other commenters who say that the issue is primarily that the Lemmyverse is too small for the grifters to bother influencing, but I also think federation (and the non-profit nature) plays into this.

    A site like Reddit generally does not ban members just for being Conservative and expressing relatively mainstream right-wing beliefs. They have to present at least a veneer of “free speech” except in the case of hate speech and violence. In addition, they don’t want to drive away Conservative users, because that’s where their money comes from.

    To a small Lemmy instance, these motives don’t come into play. More users actually costs the admins more money. And while they generally don’t ban users willy-nilly, they feel they have a right to ban people just for being right-wing dicks.

    Ultimately right-wing ideology cannot survive in a space like this except in explicitly right-leaning instances; which will be subject to the “Nazi Bar” effect until those instances are defederated from the rest of the Lemmyverse.

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      Your problem is thinking your country right wings beliefs concerns the rest of the world.

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        Yup, what the US believes has absolutely no impact on the rest of the world at all, and you are wise not to be concerned. Thank god we don’t have right-wingers that intentionally export their views to the rest of the world, or right-wingers that consult internationally with right-wing governments elsewhere in the world trying to reshape their political discourse to be even more right-wing than the USA. No worries at all. Sleep tight!

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        The Tories are practically just as bad as the Republicans these days

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        The left is less of a problem as at least their end goals, meeting the basic needs of people, is an honorable goal.

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            Ok? The far right has people advocating genocide not just ignoring historical examples.

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            Not believing conspiracy theories about supposed Uyghur genocides doesn’t make you any kind of radical. Most governments worldwide (including every Muslim nations outside of Europe) do not recognize what’s happening in Xinjiang as a genocide.

            Let me guess, dictator Chairman Xi Jinping personally developed Covid-19 in a Wuhan Lab to enact genocide against the white race too?

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                Really? Your source is a Wikipedia article, that literally anyone can edit, and which has an official policy of not allowing pro-Chinese sources?

                the truth is all evidence of a supposed “Uyghur Genocide” come from (1). Adrian Zenz, an anti-Communist Christian crusader with a proven record of falsifying data to serve his own interests, and (2). The U.S. government, directly or indirectly (such as the UN commission which was led by a U.S. ambassador). Neither are trustworthy sources when it comes to China.

                Ultimately the question is “What constitutes a genocide?”. Because, sure - under the most liberal possible definition of a “Genocide” - there’s a genocide against the Ughyrs in Xinjiang. But only in the same way that Spain is committing a genocide against Catalonians; or that America committed a genocide against Italian-Americans. Teaching the national language, promoting Atheism, and spreading Communism does not constitute a genocide. Implying that it does is an insult to the victims of real genocides, like those against the Jews and Roma, Armenians, American Indians, and Palestinians.