Apparently the admins aren’t too happy with the new form of protest that Reddit moderators found, since NSFW subs don’t run ads. Brought to Reddit users by the zombie admin account u/ModCodeOfConduct!
The admins also removed the entire mod team of r/MildlyInteresting (original link) and replaced it with either employees or sycophants, while giving all mods a 7d suspension ban.
Reddit: “subs belong to the community!”
Also Reddit: “screw the community, this is MY PRECIOUS!”
I’m willing to bet that r/ModCoord will be eventually banned. And the ban message will say something cryptic, vague, and meaningless.
When I started hearing about mods being replaced, I knew it was over. That platform simply has no future any more.
Frankly I knew that it was over when I created this comm. Now we’re just watching it 🔥burn and eating 🍿popcorn.
Let’s be realistic. Reddit will probably be fine for a whole while. Tons of users are still using the platform normally and are annoyed about the protests.
They’ll be more annoyed by the drop in quality.
Also true. Some people will remain, and they are going to see lots of ads, spam, reposts, and unhinged individuals who should have been banned. What about actual good content though? The people who make that stuff were among the first to leave. This transition will take a while to have an impact, so I don’t expect the stock value to drop much during the first year. After that though, it’s probably going to be yet another tumblr repeating history.
Small niche communities will probably still exist there, but for anything over 10’000 subs it’s definitely over
Wasted some time browsing it. Old mods are getting nuked across a hoist of subs, for example every mod on /r/celebrity was added one hour ago and old mods got banned.
If Reddit thought APIs were expensive, time to see how much it costs to use your employees as content moderators until IPO
time to see how much it costs to use your employees as content moderators until IPO
I remember seeing some maths on that - roughly 3.4 million dollars. The damage will be actually worse because a few of them won’t say “I’m leaving”, they’ll just step out of their subs and do nothing until they pile up with crap.
Reddit hates fun
The real fun comes after the mods leave. The new mods won’t keep it up, and I’m betting that 4chan will look at it and say “you know what, we fucking hate lebbit, might as well raid it”.
The only thing 4chan is good for.
Nowadays I browse mostly /vg/ and /a/, but I feel like 4chan is in certain aspects considerably better than Reddit. For example it’s actually easier to have a decent conversation in 4chan than in Reddit.
Perhaps I’m biased though, I’ve been posting in that shithole for more than a decade, for comparison my oldest Reddit account would be 9yo if not banned.
Kind of weird to think about it - 4chan saw Reddit being born, and 4chan will see Reddit die.
4chan just feels a lot less organized compared to Reddit or any other social media platform. Which is expected since it is focused on users being anonymous, but there must be a better way to link to boards; it’s kind of overwhelming when you’re on some board and you see some rules like: this can only be posted to /b/ and if you want to talk about that go to /x/.
4chan users actually think they’re superior. I sometimes see insufferable people on Reddit, but 4chan is where it’s at.
I cannot tell if it is ironic or not, but people there feel like outright Nazis.
And finally I don’t like the funni green texts, they are just not my thing.
I also might be biased because I didn’t browse 4chan nearly as much as I did Reddit.
Yes, 4chan has a thousand problems. Specially if you go to /b/ (random), /pol/ (politics) and /v/ (technically video games, but most people who like them discuss in splinter boards). And there are plenty Nazi, specially in /pol/.
But honestly, I don’t think that the Nazi issue is considerably larger in 4chan than it is in Reddit. It’s just more visible; the same Stormfront Nazi are in Reddit, except that they disguise their shit behind pretty words, or feigning stupidity¹. If you do anything similar in 4chan people will eat you alive, and you can actually tell the Nazi to die in a fire². It’s crude and transparent, but it’s like this for everyone.
And Reddit will likely get even worse in the long run. Mod replacements mean a power vacuum; a lot of those Nazi might eventually get into power positions, because the users (incl. mods) who’d protest against them are now gone.
Another issue with 4chan is the format - threads might go in the span of a hour in faster boards, so it is not suitable for any long-term discussion. The generals are a community hack around this, but even then, expect the same questions pop up over and over, and then fall into the abyss.
So overall I feel like 4chan is not a good Reddit alternative, but I still think that it’s easier to discuss serious stuff there than in Reddit.
- Made up example: “You say that people should be all equal. I dun unrurrstand, do you mean cutting off legs of tall people? I’m so confyus…” is typical Reddit experience.
- Or to learn to read. Or go back to the cancer containment board.
It’s like seeing that one popular person you don’t like being hated by all lol.
It would be shame if the users whose majority voted to make the sub nsfw continue posting nsfw stuff on the recently-swf subs.
Then the admins will immediately permaban then.
Source: the guy who posted Spez saying “I’m a greedy little pigboy” in r/adviceanimals after being forced open by the admins. Oopsie.
Yes this is all a bit depressing that reddit seems to be reaching its natural conclusion; believe me I’ve been browsing since 2010 and have watched it change over the years. But , at least this time is not the absolute degenerates that migrated like the r/fatpeoplehate fiasco. Voat turned into a white nationalist cess pool really quickly. And on a positive note lemmy/kbin seem like they have some real potential.
I’m genuinely joyful that Reddit is dying. That place was a liability for the internet and society, on multiple ways.
I’ve watched Ruqqus forming. It started OK but then Voat closed down, and guess what: a place built around a naive/dichotomic conception of free speech, with absolutely no behavioural rules, was bound to be eventually infested by people who don’t care about free speech.
The Lemmyverse is shaping differently because the ones being pissed by the changes are different. This time it isn’t the ones poking fun at obese people, or the white nationalists, or the “gamers rise up REEEE” and “I’m sooo nice why does nobody like me? ;_;” basement dwellers. No, this time everyone with more than half a brain is getting the fuck out of the boat because we know that it is sinking.
Just my two cents.
I really like the Kbin/Lemmy version of the fediverse and I’m not tempted to go back to Reddit.
Zero integrity.
So, they’re paying someone to moderate the moderators? Just a thought. Maybe good for a chuckle.
Facebook spends 2bln a year on content moderation. Spez (the guy who started his career by selling out the work of his suicided friend) has been interviewed saying he talked to Musk about how to lower operation costs. Can’t imaging 2bln/yr is cheaper than what he had before.
Odds are that it’s some old employee (or even spez) doing the dirty work under a different account to avoid being “harassed” (i.e. called out on his lies).
