The only use for this that I think would be worthwhile would be tricking 
into believing he found a “based” community to call him the Meme Maestro while he’s confined in some goon cave far away from levers of power.
HAHAHAH THE TORMENT NEXUS! HAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
I am so tempted to name names because a few long-time users here still sometimes play the “you’re afraid/emotional”
card as if being upset at this planet-burning bazinga shit is somehow unreasonable.EDIT: The aforementioned proselytizers showed up and saved me the trouble. Neat.
I am so tempted to name names
Hey, it’s me! lol
It’s not unreasonable to look at how this stuff is being used and get angry about it. That’s fine and reasonable. But please try not to mischaracterize what people are saying about this issue.
But it’s not helpful to get mad every day and post this same comment about how you’re definitely not being emotional about it (with the smuglord, always with the smuglord, give the poor guy a rest).
So where do we go from here both as individuals and as a movement? For example, we could cap or limit uses of it to research and industrial applications, or put R&D into specialized hardware and algorithms to increase efficiency. Maybe we boycott companies that abuse it? I don’t think it would work, but it’s a more interesting discussion we could be having that moves beyond just saying it’s all a grift or it’s just waifus all the way down.
FWIW I think all governments should ban proof-of-work crypto schemes like China did with Bitcoin, but I don’t think you can do that with this because the technology does actually have useful applications.
Please note that simply stating that this tech does sometimes have useful applications IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT of the most commonly seen uses of it on reddit or whatever. That’s just the internet that most regular people use reflecting the worst aspects.
Cap or limit uses of it to research and industrial applications? Boycott companies? This post is idealistic lib shit. This “AI” stuff is so horribly inefficient it’s not worth the resources for any sort of application.
Seriously, what is the benefit to having a “social media platform” that generates millions of replies? We already have that. They’re called spam bots. And this example is likely worse than copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia because the
bots(sorry) AI isn’t anything close to resembling peer review.This entire thing is a digital gold rush to be the next iPhone or Facebook or Bitcoin or whatever. There’s never going to be actual progress with this technology because of capitalism.
idealistic lib shit
Yeah, I said myself I didn’t think it would work (outside of the context of somewhere like China). I’m trying to redirect the discussion from simply obsessing about it to something more material. The Luddites accomplished jack shit, and we’re headed down the same path right now without specific demands or plans.
I also explicitly said this particular application is a waste of energy and I’m not defending it at all. What I’m saying is, there ARE legit use cases, which makes the issue more slippery.
There’s never going to be actual progress with this technology because of capitalism
You realize China is researching this technology too? They’re putting billions into it. And also it has progressed wildly in the last couple of years in the US (which is not good honestly for them to be in the lead). This shit is happening if we like it or acknowledge it or not.
But you’re here defending it. China may be researching this tech, but as far as I know, they aren’t deploying it willy-nilly for any techbro to just swoop in and start making spam bots.
A major element in this “AI” fad is that it’s not actually artificial intelligence. It’s a label that gets applied for marketing purposes. If we want to get into material analysis, we need to look at what’s actually happening and not what we think might happen in the future. And what’s actually happening is already existing tech is getting a rebrand to justify using up more resources.
I think we agree on several fundamental points, such as the inefficiency of current AI applications and the problematic capitalist motivations driving much of its development.
That being said, completely dismissing the technology because of its current misuse may prevent us from exploring and identifying genuinely valuable applications. For instance, in research and industrial settings, AI has shown promise in optimizing processes, reducing waste, and performing complex data analysis. These are areas where the potential benefits might rightly justify the resource expenditure. China’s approach, which includes heavy state involvement and regulation, might offer some insights.
Let’s focus on creating specific and actionable plans that address the root issues rather than being caught in the binary of defense vs. criticism.
And again, here you are defending things lol. Nobody is dismissing the technological advancements of the future. What we’re talking about is what’s happening right now. And right now the “”““AI””“” tech doesn’t justify its resource consumption.
You want there to be “specific and actionable plans” but so far you haven’t said any of those. What algorithms are you hoping to implement that reduce carbon footprints? Which models have real world applications that humans or existing tech don’t already do?
All you’ve done is “Okay it sucks now but if we keep doing this same thing it’s gonna get better just trust me China will solve it and then American companies will totally be left behind (please ignore solar panels and electric cars and how the US just puts a tariff up or actively punishes green energy).”
Let’s focus on creating specific and actionable plans
Yours seem to involve concern trolling people for being concerned, implying that it’s wrong somehow to express negative feelings about the damned things, as though your own feelings on the subject are lofty, logical, and enlightened by default.
But please try not to mischaracterize what people are saying about this issue.
Aaaaand then the rest of your post.
I’m going to talk about the energy wasting and environmentally ruinous treat printers (and their feverish fandom) as much as I see fit.
about how you’re definitely not being emotional about it
Your reading comprehension’s not very good if you haven’t caught on by now, even in this thread, that I’m not claiming a lack of emotion about this shit. Far from it. LARPing as a smug Redditor-style supposedly-emotion-free logician looks more like your brand.
what people are saying
You can selectively ignore/downplay what actual other people are saying all you wish, but it’s you and like two other people’s takes versus everyone else on this site.
(with the smuglord, always with the smuglord, give the poor guy a rest).
If you’re going to post smugly about this shit, you’re getting the emoji.
LMAO Thank you for your unique brand of contribution to this website.
LMAO
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What the heck? I was trying to have a reasonable discussion before. There’s no need to be like that now over a difference of opinion, c’mon. Be nice.
The one where you pulled the “you are afraid/emotional” card? Do I have to dredge up that entire exchange or can you just accept that it didn’t fly with me?
Speaking of flying, if you’re going to do more of that shit here, I’ll post this in advance unless you really need another last word game:
The Verge article has some examples that are hilarious in their banality. It’s all completely undisguised GPT slop
It’s the eidolic LLM product, a perfect summary of treat printer qualities: useless, self-indulgent, isolating, dehumanizing, and a massive waste of resources and a massive source of pollution.
i don’t mean to be drastic but i think we have to kill all these people
$20 says the “realists” “skeptics” and “debaters” are all fascist MRA Dark Enlightenment debate pervert goon shit.
Sounds about white, I mean sounds about right.
For real though, this shit is vile and my contempt for treat printer apologists intensifies nearly by the day.
lol, SocialAI can’t be providing a very good sounding board service or it would have told him that ELIZA existed, like, 60 years ago and he needs to get over himself
Techbros believe “history is over” without looking into history so they tend to feel like trailblazers while repeating the same old shit.
Something similar to this already exists as a mobile app (Butterflies). I know this because someone at a book club tried to explain it a couple of months ago, and everyone looked at him like he had three heads
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It’s an echo chamber?
If a place that burns down acres of forest and dries up lakes so a techbro can get all the fake feedback they desire tailored to their preferences isn’t an echo chamber, what is?
I’m so glad this is unlike all the very real, human posters on this site
Unless you’re running around with kerosene and a lighter between each post, still better no matter how bad the posting.
Wouldn’t it be funny if it actually just created an anonymous twitter account proxy for you? Either way you’ll be talking with bots.
