iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F::Widespread reports are circulating about the iPhone 15 overheating, seemingly across all models. Measurements taken with an infrared camera show…
46c… lmfao what a stupid headline.
That is absolutely NOT “hot”or “overheating” for a piece of tech under stress.
The phone housing is the heat sync, and the phone is more powerful than many people’s few year old laptops.
Not to defend apple but this is just trying to sensationalise and farm clicks, my pixel 7 used to get way hotter doing just normal tasks to the point I was getting overheat warnings and the screen would shut off.
Now if it was more like 55c I could see that being an issue at least from a comfort standpoint.
On top of this, pointing a thermal camera as an emissive surface like glass… not the most accurate way to actually get a temperature reading, they should have used a thermal couple… but I’m guessing that would have showed an even less exciting click bait number.
It is not comfortable to hold a 46C metal object in your hand.
but it looks so cozy
It depends on how you’re holding it and how spread that heat is. 46° isn’t something great to be grasping for extended periods of time, but if you’re physically touching 30°C parts of the phone and a part with no physical contact with your skin is 46°C, it’s probably not that bad.
My s7 edge used to hit these temps. The annoying part was the throttling and shutdowns. I never really felt like I was burning my hands using the thing.
Excuse me, but this has “you’re holding it wrong” energy. And according to this page, 44°C is starting to feel painful to touch, and 47° is enough to cause 1st degree burn.
Proteins and enzymes begin to denaturate at temps >40°C, that’s why a feaver exceeding this temperature is dangerous and why we feel a warning pain at 44°C.
It’s not “overheating” either though is it?
46c is not that hot at all, that’s like half as hot as a cup of coffee.
It’s probably not ideal… but also not at all new and about the same as my S22 ultra hits under load or when charging which runs far cooler than my previous pixel 7 which would actively overheat if you tried to run maps while charging it on a warm day, to the point it would force the screen to min brightness after about 30min.
Yeah, I’ve had overheating issues while running maps and charging on older iPhones too. Not with Apple Maps but with third party mapping software that pushed the CPU/GPU a little too hard. Doesn’t tend to happen on modern hardware with mature mapping software.
Also, iPhones do a lot of computation on your photo library while charging. They do things locally on device that Google would do in the cloud. Combine that (for years of photos and not just the ones you took in the last day or so) with normal heat from charging the battery and 46°C seems pretty reasonable to me.
I get where you’re coming from, but just because it isn’t hot when compared to a full throttle desktop CPU doesn’t mean it’s good for a device you hold with your bare hands.
Can you name one other thing in everyday life that you hold for hours on end, that gets 45+°C?
Udon straight outta the pot while I try to slurp it down?
I’m a slow eater okay?
Actually it can pose quite a big problem. There’s no ventilation on phone anywhere and lithium batteries really don’t like heat, at all. In fact that’s just at the top maximum battery can take, so there’s a big chance of thermal runaway at which point whole thing might combust.
Lithium batteries aren’t going to thermal runaway at 46ºc.
Edit: I looked it up. it’s ~66º, so maybe closer for comfort that one would like.
Yup. Not that far from recorded temps. Combine that with leaving phone in car or in direct sunlight and you enter dangerous zone.
iirc iphones at least turn off if overheating so they might just be fine in that regard. sucks to get to your phone in the other room and find it turned off tho ig.
Those situations are best avoided. Fail safes are there to prevent catastrophic failure, but heat does affect things permanently. Your battery life will take a big hit. CPU might not like it, etc.
Look here, apple fan boy. You can try to piss and moan whatever way you want, but if you read the article you’d see this was happening while charging or just watching videos and doing “light duty use”. A 116f case is absolutely not normal for that. My three+ year old phone doesn’t even get a bit warm doing any of that. If my phone went over 90f from watching videos I’d be pissed. Apple likely screwed something up on their software side and the processor is spinning its gears hard for little to no reason.
It has also come out that there is a bug in the instagram app from what I’ve been reading.
This is causing a drastic increase in temperature and battery use on all iOS devices running ios17.
This could very well just be some app code bug that is caught in a processing loop.
It also explains why some people are seeing this and others are not, as not everyone is sitting on instagram while their phone is on charge.
It has a battery directly next to the CPU, you can’t compare that to a desktop or Laptop and will take damage FAR sooner, especially conaidering what a pain “modern” smartphones are to repair, even something trivial like the battery almost requires a specialist!
Please take that common sense elsewhere. Here we don’t defend Apple since this is a general technology community. You are supposed to hate them no matter what. Only if this happens to an Android device, we try our best to understand.
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It’s the hottest Apple iPhone yet!!
Obviously, you’re holding it wrong
This
Just in time for autumn! A hand warmer!
But is has TiTaNiUm~
So? My 250€ Motorola also has this feature, they are slacking behind
How long do you figure it’ll take them to make a phone that triggers nuclear fusion? Asking for a friend.
Some context:
http://www.antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=15
At 116F you would require firm, continuous contact for more than 20 minutes to produce a 2nd degree burn, and over 45 minutes to produce a 3rd degree burn.
So one semi long YouTube video is all it would take to get a burn? And you’d not even need a full length movie to need a trip to the hospital?
I get that these aren’t “instant” burns, but this is still a device people regularly hold for hours a day. And if you don’t realize it’s heating up, you’re likely to notice only when you’re in pain.
Yea I think that when something is hot enough to cause burns, even when it takes minutes, I think it’s uncomfortable enough for people to let go way WAY before anything bad happens. If you don’t then you probably need medication for whatever condition ails you
He skipped 1st degree burns. Those would probably take 10 minutes or less.
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If the temp increase is slow, people don’t realize it’s hot unless they happen to put it down or reposition it.
When my son was younger, he burnt his legs by using a laptop on his lap. It got hot, he didn’t realize.
Same concept as being in the shower and very slowly changing the temp until you’re showering in fully hot/cold water.
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Ironically, a frog would actually jump out of the water if its temperature slowly increases.
Realistically speaking, since this is in fast charging only, and most people don’t let their phone battery drain to 0, I think it’s unlikely that 3rd degree burns will be an issue within reason. The iPhone 15’s reported to take about 30 minutes to charge from 0 to 50%, so if I assume the other 50% also takes 30 minutes, then really, someone won’t be hitting 45 minutes unless they’re charging from below 25% to full.[1]
That said, 3rd degree burns may be an issue once you slip a case on it that insulates the phone, making it yet hotter, and 2nd degree burns will be more of an issue too. I’d be interested in seeing what the peak temp is during fast charging with a case on, especially one of the thicker cases. If it internally gets to more than 140 degrees Fahrenheit, there’s absolutely risk that it could explode, and even if it’s not doing it externally, internally it may be nearing those temps.
I know charging isn’t actually linear progression, but I don’t really wanna do the math. ↩︎
Or maybe let’s not trivialize a defect that can cause 2nd degree burns making them look like nothing?
Chill Maalus, I’m pretty clearly addressing 3rd degree burns, and only even mentioning 2nd degree burns in circumstances that are likely to increase their risk.
What part of this set you off, genuinely? Was it the reference of it as a risk? Was it that I actually looked at the facts? No part of me thinks this is good. This is very obviously and inarguably unacceptable, and no part of my post states otherwise.
Funny too that you ignore the post right next to mine that legitimately is minimizing it.
“chill dude it’s clearly addressing the meat being charred and falling off the bone, and only mentioning potentially life threatening blisters in passing”.
I mean, I didn’t have anything to say with regards to the 2nd degree burns, really, so I didn’t feel the need to comment on them. Didn’t know any reply I made had to both acknowledge everything I agree with as well as make comment on what I feel was comment-worthy.
So I’ll start now. I disagree with your lackadaisical portrayal of me. Neither is it accurate nor does it form a coherent argument against me. It simply acts as an ad hominem used in the place of a substantiated or communicated argument.
I agree with nothing in your non-statement.
Also characterizing 2nd degree burns on the hands as potentially life-threatening was irresponsible of pseudo-me. Pseudo-I shouldn’t have done that, as it’s untrue. Pseudo-me should know they’re severe and serious, but something doesn’t need to be described as “potentially life-threatening” to be severe and serious, and in fact, pseudo-me should be aware that this is a minimization of things that don’t kill you but severely impact one’s quality-of-life, as 2nd degree hand burns would.
Read up what 2nd and 3rd degree burns even are, then we can talk.
Iphones have fast charging now?
Apparently. I’d drop dead before I buy one myself but a friend told me today that with fast charging the 15 charges to 100% in 55 minutes.
Sooo… still fast charging speeds from over 5 years ago. What have they messed up for it to heat up like that? Lmao
Well naturally this is a brand new technology that Tim Apple invented last week. It’s the best in the industry and really, $1000 for a phone this cutting edge is a bargain, even if it can literally burn your hands. /s
Complete opposite. I’ve never seen any other group of people let their phone drop so low. It’s like they do it on purpose. I blame the lack of battery % so they don’t get the anxiety effects.
What about 1st degree burns? Would these be ok?
This is a massive problem. It’s not ok for a device which millions of people use to get so hot. This could cause a fire given the right conditions.
I hope this gets reported on the mainstream news so people realise Apple isn’t so great after all.
This is by far not the first time they’ve had hardware issues with their products. I think hardware is their Achilles heel.
Not that I feel sorry for them considering how much they fleece customers on the prices for the devices, repairs, accessories, the amount of times they tell you to get a whole new Mac when all it needs is 1 part etc.
This could cause a fire given the right conditions.
Something tells me it could also cause a fire given the wrong conditions.
(sorry yeah I’ll see myself out)
Good one 🤣
Apples hardware is one of their strengths. By far the best in class in mosts categories they compete in.
You might want to ask Lou Rossman about that, he would beg to differ.
I remember well when I was an apple fan that the unwritten rule was “never buy gen 1 of apple devices because they will have issues. Always wait for gen 2”
The issues with their laptops, especially the main board, is legendary. Then there’s bendgate, antennagate, the cracking of the cases of the white macbooks (which I had) etc
Not a stellar record. Whereas typically we don’t see these issues on PC’s and Android phones. The only big one was the exploding Samsung Note 7, but Samsung recalled them all and cancelled the phone. Unlike Apple who said “you’re holding it wrong” when their antenna design was the real problem.
Many laptop manufactures have terrible hinges, power connectors that break and terrible keyboards. The difference is volume of a single design and media pick up of the issues.
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Tested Genshin and it’s worse at higher temperatures.
This reminds me of the Samsung Phone incident… not as bad as that but it’s just something that popped up in my mind.
Sounds like a really expensive way to keep your coffee warm.
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Apple is leveling up at each new phone. iPhone are average with a premium price.
Are Apple fanboys not happy with their magic boxes called “smartphones” that just works? xD
if you want a phone that “just works” BUY A FLIP PHONE
What about A BRICK PHONE???
I’m sure this will likely get addressed shortly with a software update. Curious to see if they throttle the CPU / slow charging a bit.
IMHO, this is always the risk you run with day one hardware and software. Early adopters can get burned. In this case both figuratively and literally.
That said, I’ve been hitting some 15 pros pretty hard and I haven’t noticed any heat issues.
But honestly, how does something basic like this pass qc?
As someone in product development, I can attest to some stuff just not showing up until you throw millions of end users at something. You can try your damnedest to simulate real world usage and have all sorts of automated test, but the real world and real users alway find something. You just hope the something is small and patchable.
