First, let me clarify. The concept of someone being a “race traitor” is inherently a fascist concept. It was used by the Nazis to call Germans who fought against the Nazis as traitors to the “Ayran race” and it is still used today by neo-Nazi groups and groups such as the Ku Klux Klan to call out white leftists as traitors to the “white race.”

Biological race does not exist. The genetic diversity between humans is far lower than the average genetic diversity of other mammals. The differences control arbitrary things like the shape of your eyes, the colour of your skin, and your resistance to tropical diseases. Biological race does not exist. Race is a social construct created for racists and fascists to justify their oppression.

So when I hear leftists on GenZedong calling some asian guy an “honorary white” or “race traitor” (although the person who did that got called out and apologised/edited their comment) it frankly disgusts me.

People do not owe a duty to their race. The idea that they do is literally a fascist concept. The minute people start accusing others of being “race traitors,” they are spouting fascist bullshit. Because again, people do not inherently owe a duty to their race.

r/GenZedong, despite me generally liking it, delves too close time and time again to fascist racial bullshit. One person is talking about the concept of a Hanjian as betraying “the Han State” which is is just Han chauvinism supported by a bunch of sinophiles. People are confusing fights for emancipation with chauvinist fascist bullshit.

This is what happens when people entirely ignore the class character of this sort of shit in favour of race reductionist bullshit. When people are too concerned with crackers and not enough about the class conflict and its enforcement of systematic racism and imperialism, preferring instead to blame it on “crackers” as though the average Joe the Miner is supporting the War on Terror because it’s part of his evil plan to destroy Muslims and not because he’s been fed bullshit by racist right-wing media. This isn’t to say racism and imperialism aren’t issues, but that they are part of the greater class conflict.

Is Barack Obama an “Uncle Tom” or a “Race Traitor?” No, because he doesn’t owe servitude to his “race.” He serves his class, the bourgeoisie. Candace Owens isn’t a race traitor, because she doesn’t owe servitude to her race, she serves as a token black lady who’s job is to give right-wing outlets like TPUSA and Pragur U credibility.

Race reductionism is fucking stupid. The concept of people “betraying their race” is fucking stupid. It’s an argument made by skinheads for skinheads and the fact people are so caught up in their rabid anti-cracker campaigning to realise they’re gobbling down literal fascist arguments is fucking astounding to me.

@ksynwa
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Yeah not saying the top guy is not in the wrong but internalising racism is very common in minorities in white western countries. Things like race traitorhood and stuff are reactionary as you pointed out but at least the top level comment has edited it out.

@The_Lobster_Emperor
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Absolutely. It’s incredibly sad to see a bunch of dipshits call this guy a worthless piece of trash for internalising the racism received against him. Yeah he’s acting like an idiot, but people don’t grow up hating their own “race” out of no where. There are outside factors at play.

Muad'Dibber
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I can’t find any comments there of what you’re talking about, the only comment I can see with that in it is one agreeing with you that race reductionism is cringe. https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/kv9h8q/-/gixusim

@The_Lobster_Emperor
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As I said, the person who called them a “race traitor” edited their comment after being told that calling people “race traitors” is literally a fascist argument. So I guess I could have screen shot it so it made sense, but I didn’t want to take away their credit for apologising and admitting their fault.

I guess I felt like ranting about the topic after seeing the crux, and seeing a few people decide to go down race reductionist cringe.

There are a few people arguing that they use the term “race traitor” to own the skinheads in some bizarre twist of logic. But yeah, the main comment who called them a race traitor was, to the credit of the guy who posted it, corrected by them.

There’s people calling them a traitorous cuck, as though the guy is some white collaborator during the colonisation of China and not just someone who’s internalised the racism they’ve received.

Ngl the video is still really fucking cringe though.

But yeah “race traitor” is not the right term.

@The_Lobster_Emperor
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Oh I absolutely agree. People internalise the racism they experience in some bizarre attempt to receive validation from the racists and it’s a huge problem. Contrary to what one person said though, they don’t need to be sent to a labour camp.

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