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I for one choose not to believe that the only opinion is the one stated by an authoritarian regime

okay, then don’t listen to the state. read the “evidence” yourself, look at the data and see that it is straight up bullshit. some things are outright lies & others are completely misunderstood and misrepresented data. when you crunch the numbers it is abundantly clear the “genocide” is not ocurring. seriously. do the calculations.

or, you could listen to people who actually live there. and if you don’t trust those people, how about non-chinese tourists who go to xinjiang? there are plenty of videos of people walking around.


i would say perhaps you would understand more if you went to 新疆维吾尔自治区 but it appears you are an anarchist so i don’t see you being able to separate the idea of china in your head from the real china. that name up there reads “xinjiang uighur autonomous region”, by the way. an autonomous region has different legislative power than a province. they also are required in xinjiang to have higher offices held by uighurs. so i think they would know better than some anarchist what is best for them.


what do you say about the fact that the us state department attorneys have said the isn’t evidence of genocide??


then just use the “subscribed” tab and not “all” or “local”. that way you’re not “wading through” anything. you can set it to automatically default to subscribed in your settings.


for anyone reading that definition of tankie, i will provide some education:

“Stalinism” is not a thing.

to the hilt, even in cases where other communists criticise their policies or actions.

this is 100% false. “tankies” absolutely have criticisms of socialists states. but 1) they are just criticisms, not those based on false propaganda 2) are not shared aloud around liberals because liberals latch on to a single thing as if it is evidence that proves every one of their wrong thoughts

Some of the people round George W Bush used to be left-wing, but they haven’t really changed their views much; they were mostly tankies.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


We shouldn’t have to be concerned about this will be gab.

this won’t become gab precisely because there is no “free speech”. allowing “free speech” means that you allow things that are destructive and oppressive and the moderators & admins rightfully won’t allow that. that’s a good thing.


Believing and spreading propaganda denying current and genocides of the past, posting things like “defeat israel”, defending russia and china, pushing misnifnormation and propaganda in the dictatorship of Belarus’s favour and even supporting north korea.

you are the one believing in & spreading propaganda. the people here encourage each other to look past propaganda & listen to the people of the countries and people who understand the actual systems of those countries, instead of taking CIA propaganda and automatically thinking it is true.

for anyone reading this, let’s use the DPRK (north korea) as an example. you hear that it is a dictatorship. but that falls down immediately when you figure out how their government actually works. kim jong-un is not even the president! he is also not the premier (arguably the “top” of the three “top” positions in the government)! he is in charge of the military and the worker’s party (which is a position he is elected to). and about that, there are three political parties, by the way. and a worker can run as an “independent”. two-ish years ago there was an interview with a young man who lives in the DPRK. he said that he votes for kim and nearly everyone he knows does because they think he truly is the best person for the job.

see? once you start reading about the way things actually work, you realize that what you have read is not merely misleading but outright false.

Lemmy is just the gab of the left but as an alternative to reddit so they can spread their stuff.

this doesn’t make any sense. if we were simply trying to “spread our stuff” we would be on reddit doing so.

I’ll actively work against Lemmy and it’s developers

i had been polite to you but after this i say: good fucking riddance.



Franz Gayl, a 64-year-old retired US Marine major who is now working at the Pentagon, is under a counterintelligence investigation by the Marine Corps for his two articles published in the Global Times that criticized the US policy toward the Taiwan Straits. …


Next you will catch yourself saying DPRK instead of North Korea without realising it lol.

having an american tell me “will you PLEASE shut up about the DPRK!” is one of my proudest moments, tbh 🥲


white people mad no matter what but i do think that the teachers need to be educated on what critical race theory actually is. educators themselves need to be taught anti-racist education so that it can be properly taught in a way kids can understand. that would require amerikkka actually caring about combatting racism though…




wikipedia is reactionary. there are reactionaries on mastodon. my suspicion about lemmy is that there is a blanket ban on all .ml sites and not that it has anything to do with lemmygrad.


That’s great, but then you are limited to Chinese options, hence your choices are being limited. No?

users outside china are limited, too. if a web result cannot breach the first page of google, does not have paid advertising, and is not tossed around by whatever communities you are in, how will you know about it? no matter how good it may be?

the “choice” of websites in many ways is an illusion. like news websites. sure you can choose between le monde, bbc, the guardian, reuters, cnn, foxnews, ap, the intercept, nyt, etc but if they are all using the same sources and giving the same stories (as they so often are), are you really getting a choice?

i also think you may not have a good idea of what the internet in china is like. not all non-chinese websites are banned. and sometimes websites that were banned become unbanned. also china has equivalent counterparts to the “big” sites (like google, youtube, twitter, etc). and they are not limited to one choice there either, though just like in the west some are more popular than others.

I feel this is sidetracking the conversation, that is a conversation on freedom of data and privacy, I’m talking about having the options to choose what is available everywhere - even if those options are from evil corps.

i disagree. this is what i mean by “illusion of freedom”. the large majority of users have no idea they are in fact surrending freedoms when visiting those sites.

china is protecting its citizens from things that could harm them. including things like american corporations data mining. the internet would be better elsewhere if everyone had a similar attitude toward the net.



The law will be applicable to data processing activities and security supervision within China’s territory. Data processing activities outside China’s territory that harm China’s national security, public interests will be pursued for legal responsibility in accordance with the law. …


disregards individual freedom of choice

as this is lemmygrad, i’m gonna point out that “individual freedom” is liberalism

freedom of choice

ehhh…

  1. it’s not like there is only a single chinese website and zero others

  2. are users free using software made by corporations like google? absolutely not.

Wouldn’t it be possible to make those incentives without putting up barriers?

does it matter? why shouldn’t they put barriers? the barriers need to be up. back to the “individual freedom” point, “free speech” is a bad thing (yes, you read correctly). china is right to censor their internet. why should the chinese people suffer the same fate as those in the west who are constantly being marketed to, being ingrained with false propaganda, encouraged to develop hatred and prejudice?


  1. what are you referring to specifically?

  2. how is this a relevant to my previous comment?


not communes. though some countries’ third level administrative divisions are translated (usually from french) into english as “communes”, the english word “commune” typically refers to a specific type of community, not an administrative division. therefore, words like “district” or “municipality” should be used to describe such divisions as to avoid confusion.


the word “communism” is not derived from the word “commune”.


i didn’t realize you were referring to planning. planning must be centralized in order to work. basically all parts need to be communicating instead of operating individually. and planning does not involve simply allocating funds.

co-ops

commune

your use of these terms suggests you are still thinking about this from an anarchist’s perspective. take your time reading the works that have been suggested and if you have questions afterwards don’t be afraid to ask


your list is great! i would add marx’s Critique of the Gotha Programme as i think it is excellent for beginners since it goes into a lot of ideas but isn’t as long as some other texts.


marxism involves a scientific view of history. historically, it doesn’t work. there have been zero successful anarchist projects.

state & rev will explain why a state is needed. i didn’t link it to be flippant. i linked it because it has answers to your questions.