I realize posting Contrapoints is almost too easy at this point, but this is just too much
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Half the democratic party either refused to support mamdani or supported a third party candidate against the democratic nominee just to not concede anything to the left wing of their base Why is she such a liar?
Why is she such a liar?
Class position and material interests.
There’s more successful streamers/tubers than her who have better political inclinations. So idk if this is PURELY about status for her, I think she’s also just a coward who years for neoliberal stability.
Yeah, more successful streamers like Hasan “What’s a little swastika tattoo between comrades?” “Lenin would run as a Democrat” Piker
At his worst he’s still leagues better than fucking Contra
Cheering on Strasserism threatens to prove that wrong
He’s at least not a fucking total coward on the Gaza Genocide which makes him at lead marginally better than fucking Contra.
It’s hard to say for sure but I think Hasan quietly distanced himself from Graham Platner after the tattoo situation. Hasan has said a few times that he doesn’t believe in doing public apologies or publicly chastising oneself. On Oct 25 stream, he told Felix Biederman that he canceled his plans to interview Graham Platner after the tattoo thing. On another stream, Hasan said that he’s predicting that Graham Platner will continue to have larger controversies come out after the tattoo.
I think it is foolish to have hope for someone who did four tours in Iraq and worked for Blackwater.
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FELIX Have you ever been to Maine?
HASAN No. Or once. I was supposed to go and meet up with Graham Platner initially, way before any of this stuff, and my primary concern at that time was like “why did you join Blackwater in 2018”. Which is not a concern for the average voter at all obviously. I was trying to understand what the fuck was going on there because on paper the the his candidacy like: left populist, Berniecrat, whatever, looks good. Then you look into his background you’re like “what the fuck? how did this happen?” I had these these concerns. I wanted to talk to him about it and then all of this stuff happened. First the Reddit stuff came out and I was like “okay this is pretty funny.” How did you go from four tour machine gunner in the Marines to Blackwater in 2018 to by 2020, being like “I hate white folk. I hate the stupid white chuds.”
felix talks for a while and says that chapo considered interviewing Graham Platner as well but felix never liked him
Hasan has definitely acknowledged wrongdoing before, even things as trivial as that during Shocktober 7th he should have checked on Kaya when she yelped, or apologizing for the 9/11 or Rick Scott phrasings (while still defending the sentiment, and also even the phrasing in the second case was fine and he knows it but he chose to apologizing anyway).
Hasan repeatedly and explicitly said that it’s good that Platner had support even after the swastika thing because of his platform of economic populism. Literally just Strasserism.
I think that the reason that Hasan ever supported Platner was because he’s desperate for there to be any US politician that is anti-Israel. I think there are a lot of people that have that same desperation. The main opponent to Graham Platner is Janet Mills, who is a Zionist that openly supports Israel doing genocide. Some people made the idea that Graham Platner was less bad than the Zionist candidate. I’m not going to engage in lesser-evilism.
I don’t think that Hasan is a secret Stasserist. Nobody knows what Strasserism is. Many people don’t even know what Fascism means or even what Nazis believed.
Also he tried to ignore the shock collar stuff for as long as possible, but reddit keep spreading new lies about it. Same with the other things.
I don’t think that Hasan is a secret Stasserist. Nobody knows what Strasserism is. Many people don’t even know what Fascism means or even what Nazis believed.
I’m not saying he has a copy of German Socialism by Gregor Strasser by his nightstand, I’m saying that the logical implication of whatever his brain-broken desperate excuses are is supporting horrible reactionaries who will support economic populism because that’s literally what he’s doing.
Also he tried to ignore the shock collar stuff for as long as possible, but reddit keep spreading new lies about it.
His acknowledgement about Kaya was literally the day after, I’m pretty sure, though of course he spent much more time rejecting the lies around it. He didn’t ignore it at all, he just didn’t address it in the same stream because basically no one in the stream interpreted what happened that way because it’s all based on an out-of-context clip. He’s bullheaded to an obvious fault, but usually he doesn’t pivot in a completely silent manner.
He literally trashed Platner over the tattoo
See below
Where’s the clip?
You’re being a little terse and I am thereby not sure exactly what you mean. Is what you’re saying that you what me to go dig up a clip where he’s talking about how cool it is that Platner continues to poll well with Mainers?
I think Contra gets it extra because for a time we all assumed that she was further left than she was because she was making content about the alt right, critiquing it from the left. There was a similar phenomenon around Destiny when he went on his anti alt right arc, and I would even draw a comparison to the support behind AOC.
None of these people were ever lefties, but their position made many people think they were, in part through motivated reasoning because people really wanted them to be.
Contra’s stated position in some videos early on was way more anti-capitalist than Destiny, even if we can still rightly say that it didn’t mean anything. Contra herself has talked about identifying more to the right than she used to.
Yeah, I honestly think her rightward drift was a reaction to that time she got cancelled on Twitter. She seems to genuinely think that’s what “the left” is.
Yeah it’s a lot easier to get a broad audience by attacking the right than by outlining a positive vision and advocating for a specific strategy, because the latter can be kept ambiguous to avoid alienating people who might disagree. The problem of course is what we see now, that opportunists like Contra can get in on it and then easily redirect their followers towards supporting the ruling class.
Wait i just looked it up and BILL CLINTON ENDORSED CUOMO.
Couple goals
hillary would back hitler to keep haiti textile wages low sooooo
Didn’t her campaign literally boost trump in the primary?
Yes re: pied piper memo. The best a liberal could say to defend is “there’s no proof they DID IT.” But like yes they had an overt plan to boost one of a number of extremists in the gop primary so that she’d have a % higher chance of winning and trump just happened to get billions in free tv coverage
Yes
Liberals jumping on the Mamdani hype train now as if they didn’t spend the last decade waging war against socdems.
It’s crazy that the 2016 election cycle was 10 years ago
Honduran President, Manuel Zelaya came from a wealthy, land-owning background, was elected as a traditional neoliberal in 2006, and then shifted toward the political left during his presidency.
During his term (2006-2009), Zelaya surprised many of his traditional elite supporters by shifting toward left-of-center policies. This included increasing the minimum wage by 80%, providing subsidies to small farmers, and aligning Honduras with the Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas (ALBA), an organization promoted by Venezuela’s then-leftist President Hugo Chávez. This shift lost him the support of the Honduran business elites, the military, the judiciary, and many members of his own party.
On June 28, 2009, the Honduran military stormed the presidential palace, arrested President Zelaya (reportedly while he was still in his pajamas), and forcibly exiled him by putting him on a plane to Costa Rica. The Honduran Congress then officially voted to remove him from office and installed the head of Congress, Roberto Micheletti, as the interim president. Much of the international community, including the UN and the OAS, condemned it as a military coup.
Immediately following the coup, the Obama administration, including Secretary Clinton, publicly condemned the ouster of Zelaya. Over the following days, the U.S. position began to shift from demanding Zelaya’s unconditional return to holding new elections.
Clinton helped organize elections where Zelaya and his supporters would be excluded. In her own words, she “strategized on a plan to restore order in Honduras and ensure that free and fair elections could be held quickly and legitimately, which would render the question of Zelaya moot”.
Emails released later show that the 2009 removal was supported by Hillary Clinton’s State Department by not recognizing it as coup in order to maintain U.S. aid to the Honduran people. Clinton and her team worked behind the scenes to stall military and economic efforts by Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and Chile through the Organization of American States to restore Manuel Zelaya to office. “The OAS meeting today turned into a non-event — just as we hoped,” wrote one senior State Department official, celebrating their success in defusing what they judged would have been a violent or destabilizing restoration.
The violence that followed the coup also led to a long-term increase in the country’s murder rate, with a significant number of deaths occurring in the following years due to factors like political violence against activists and increased organized crime. Violence against LGBT people escalated significantly after the coup. Between 2009 and 2016, 229 LGBT people were murdered, a sharp increase compared to previous years.
“but what about her emails!”Absolutely monstrous ghouls
Why does she keep promoting Killary?
I kinda feel like she’s just purposely ragebaiting at this point. She doesn’t have anything actually meaningful to say, so that’s all she can do to get people outside of her circle of sycophants to give her attention.
She has very little to gain from recycling the same criticisms of the (formerly alt) right, it’s all tired now. So she can only punch left and double down on being The Adult In The Room.
She could always graduate to groypers
Brianna Wu antithesis
Ok post, but I’m sorry HarryLime, I’m going to have to dock you a couple Hexbearian Social Credit Score Points because you did not use the Party-Approved Maoist Standard English spelling of her name, KKKontrapointSS.
Whoops!
if you clear the leaves out of my yard I will get those points credited back to you. I know some guys
I know some guys
*KKKnow some guySS
Hillary would back Stalin to stop Trump
My sister in Christ, Hillary wouldn’t even back Bernie Sanders to stop Trump.
That’s very funny coming from the people who did back countless fascists to stop countless communists
And then had to back the communists anyway because the fascists didn’t stop at Poland.
Honestly, though, I think today’s liberals would be unable to do what Churchill and FDR did. They’d get themselves killed as they’d be devout adherents to Appeasement, even while standing in line for the gas chambers. Today’s liberals don’t even understand how capitalism actually works. This is unlike their predecessors, who realized they’d have to cannibalize the Axis Powers while giving concessions to the working class.
she is so cringe omg. learn to quit when you’re ahead 😔
She is not ahead though
she could have disappeared into obscurity when people felt bad bill was fucking around on her
Oh, I thought you meant Natalie
you know, maybe i did. i was very stoned last night. i guess natalie couldve released her alt right dog whistles video then quit
She’s a rich powerful old white american lady, the only thing she could’ve lucked into to be more ahead by default in life was to be born a man
Ahead of the guillotine so far
She would have to get a real job then
Probably not, unless she’s shit at saving she should have enough to retire by now
Hillary would back trump to stop hillary
contrapoints doesn’t give a fuck about genocide so I don’t give a fuck what contrapoints has to say
Acting like the dem playbook here will not be to co-opt and defang all of Zohrans messaging and then sabotage him at every turn
Yeah, I read theory
Maybe, but Hillary Take Back the Means of Production From China Clinton may recognize the opportunism in ridding out a centre-left wave.
Tweets (after they can no longer influence the outcome of an event, mind you) outweigh a decades long history of evidence to the contrary.
