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Libs doing the West’s work free of charge. Must be a day of the week ending in ‘y’ again. Sad thing is the post histories of these Sinophobia-spewing assholes shows them to be generally left-leaning.

I beg your pardon if I seem harsh on them but I’m fucking fed up with seeing this shit everywhere lately.

Haven’t decided how to interpret that pizza69 guy. I remember his name because I’ve downvoted stupid/aggravating shit he said in the past when I still had an account there, and I think here he’s joining the circlejerk by invoking the old reliable anything left of Obama = tAnKiE, but again not sure.

*edit: the last guy just updated his post to include one final Le Both Sides jab… “2 sides of the same capitalistic, imperialist coin.”

  • T34 [they/them]
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    74 years ago

    The “progressivism” and “anti-racism” of the US’s labor aristocracy is limited to its own borders. For the 99% of the world’s POC outside the US these “progressives” may as well be John Bolton.

  • @badsynthaxerror
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    64 years ago

    Not harsh as all. I used to be a long time member of collapse (mostly lurked on the reddit, was more active on the discord) , collapse used to be more founded in reality but as the sub got more popular it got ugly, and I barely look at the reddit and ditched the spying app. So, I watched the fall from somewhat scientific to populous, US-focused only and neolib (with all the bigotry) over a period of 5yrs or so. When I left the spyapp there was some serious Sinophobia and simple flat-out racism, there was no more climate collapse talk, it was all China this and China that, Trump all day, the typical US tendency to look for a moustache-twirling villain (or scapegoat one) like some 1930 silent flick rather than the true root, systemic causes.

    What they now mostly call the end of the world is simply the end of the US and the neoliberal system, they used to somewhat question articles, esp as those monitoring environmental collapse you would know US media likes to keep a quiet lid on that one. The readers became less and less educated/well-read and when you bring any class discourse up they compare it to popular media (ex is Elysium or the American cut of Snowpiercer ffs). Even if it were extinction level to be so mopey in the face of it is ridiculous for one’s psyche, at least comfort yourselves, but there is one system that can readily do that, the one they fear.

    Out here, people stub their toe, and yell communism, its a deep multi-generational brainwashing. Moving toward that system via socialism is the only organizational path can even dream of adaptation to the slow motion, multi-level complex disaster is the idea they dislike most, the current neoliberalism and US-style democracy only for the rich, is far too bulky and slow from a purely planning perspective, not even getting on the consumption issues. The ‘leftists’ there are mostly anarchists and want insta-utopia changing only scary terms like ‘planning’ to others that mean the same damn thing, not changing any underlying causes nor nuance. The rest only see the slowly falling ashes of the US and assume the whole world is on fire, neoliberalism is equivalent to humanity. They say they’re leftists, nonsense, they don’t acknowledge material reality. Can’t absorb theory even if you made them read it and I tried a few times in my foolishness. They’ve as a collective become that Fishmahboi with the same almost Hollywood-doomsday-film magical realism. He used to be an annoying joke with honest talks of bans, but the sub got so hideous even ‘the prophet’ grew tired and left his future chosen.

    • @redsteelOP
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      34 years ago

      Great post, lots of thoughts here and gave me much to think about. I didn’t join /r/collapse until late last year, and it definitely has a huge American-centric bias overall. They really need some rule to include [US] or something in topic titles.

      I do remember that one prolific poster though I didn’t take well to him, found him more annoying than anything else though it was probably a consequence of my very low mood and that I wasn’t subscribed there long before he deleted his account. The first few times I noticed his username he was heavily downvoted too so maybe that played a part on my impression; just couldn’t warm up to him.

      Otherwise yes, the consequences of Red Scare are with us today as seen with all of capitalism’s and neoliberalism’s cheerleaders. I’d expect more than half the content posted there wouldn’t exist in an alternate reality freed from the disease of neoliberalism, in a needs-based, more humble, anti-consumerism type of world.