In fairness 100% of the American economy is getting owned pretty publicly right now.
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Lmao
Nice
who owns the rubber ball factory matters very little compared to who owns the rubber factory
Sorry sweaty, China is just as capitalist as the US is
Lmao I love you people
China’s economy is owned by the CCP. They decide what can come up and at what rate and at what scale. People have nothing to do with it.
China’s economy is owned by the CCP.
Good that the CPC is made out of people (100M in fact) and have been benefiting from the decisions made via democratic centralism then
What’s it like to have never thought your own thoughts and just spew what propaganda has taught you to spew
you dumb fuck
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Its anything but that since comrade Deng took over.
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western anarchist
read
Dude for real. Reading, even reading anarchist theory, which is what I started on, is exactly how I ended up an ML. It’s really anlmost impossible to read a lot of anarchist theory and not move in that direction. I thank Graeber a lot for moving me in the proper direction.
How does this path work? Like you read Graeber, you attempt to understand how to get to the better world sketched out, and you realize that ML’s are the only group seriously talking strategy and tactics to do it? That’s the way I imagine it working, but I’d love to know how you did it
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Well, for what it’s worth, I hadn’t read it before and I appreciate it, thank you. But then again, I’m already ML and not a liberal.
CCP
How to tell in an instant you’re dealing with a chud.
Whats the difference from CPC?(I’m new)
generally communist parties put the communist part first and the country part last as a bit of internationalism
some yank styleguide decided to put the chinese part first in some mix of racism, making it sound more like the CCCP, and the reactionary impulse to not call things by their proper names. see deadnaming and the “democrat party” shibboleth mainstreamed by rush limbaugh.
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“Chinese Communist Party” centers their Chineseness over their communism as a means of othering them and upholding white supremacy. also connects to the “ChiCom” pseudo-slur popular during the height of the cold war
“Communist Party of [Country]” is a long-standing formulation that underscores the international and class-based nature of the worker’s movement
Which is funny that they even seized upon “CCCP” because it’s Cyrillic and the Latin equivalent would be “SSSR” so it’s just “spooky foreign thingy” all the way down.
Chinese communist party vs communist party of china which CPC is what its actual name is
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Sick. Thanks everyone for the explanations. I hope for(and work towards) a CPC(Communist Party of Canada) where I am some day.
People have nothing to do with it.
What does the “P” stand for in PRC? Checkmate, liberal.
It does not matter whether the boot is people’s boot or capitalist boot if it is on the neck of the people. I am paraphrasing Bakunin I hope it is a near good one.
is lifting 800 million people out of poverty putting “the people’s boot” on their neck?
okay but have you considered FREE TIBET?
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800 million lifted out of poverty by CPC based on reports by CPC conducted under the administration of CPC. Commended by CPC.
And confirmed by every single international observer? Do you have any evidence that China’s lying besides conspiracy brain? Do you think the hyper capitalist world bank is lying to help China? https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience
Give me an explanation for this that isn’t racism, please
The responses show it’s just racism
World bank reports use reports by the CCP to report on China. It’s a well known fact. They cant conduct independent surveys in China
Absolutely impenetrable Western chauvinism brain. Literally all evidence is to the contrary. You can provide nothing to support your position - it’s just an article of faith. You’re the flat-earther of geopolitics.
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As a nation that suffered profoundly under colonial and imperialist exploitation, I too would like to give up control over my economic narrative to foreign powers and let the World Bank operate freely and risk getting my sovereignty undermined and open venues for capitalist subversion. We all know data is neutral, amirite?
Your answer is a rhetorical device and relies on the belief that nations like the US don’t have capacity to prove that China is making up their numbers and wouldnt make it public the moment they’d have proof.
gee, they must also control the world bank, which is… uh it was founded in washington and every president of it has been an american so far and uh
The countries with most voting power are now the United States (15.85%), Japan (6.84%), China (4.42%), Germany (4.00%), the United Kingdom (3.75%), France (3.75%), India (2.91%),[41] Russia (2.77%), Saudi Arabia (2.77%) and Italy (2.64%).
yes, the communists also control this, clearly.
Control has nothing to do with this. You cannot go and do a sampling survey in China independently without the permission of CCP. So every report that comes out of a China is a lie or at best mixed with truth.
oh mysterious orient, wont you give up your secrets
Unlike western sources, which have a great track record.
We are gonna find those WMDs in Iraq any day now.
The “4 comments until racism” rule: challenge a liberal, and about 4 comments deep they go mask off racist
Bedtime is authoritarian.
jfc this is why people don’t take anarchists serious
just stop. you’re embarrassing me
Are you an anarchist? If not then I really dont give a damn. If you are one, then you should not be supporting a fascist and hierarchical regime like CCP. You need to read seeing like a state by James Scott to know why China/USSR and US are the two sides of coin. They are all authoritarian in nature. We anarchists wont bend to authority imposed externally.
a fascist … regime like CCP.
jfc. stop. you’re making us look bad
We anarchists wont bend to authority imposed externally.
i’m so embarrassed. i promise i take showers
I was 14 too
paraphrasing Bakunin
but why?
So is anarchism pretending there is no boot and doing nothing to engage with it or mitigate it
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China’s economy is owned by the CCP. They decide what can come up and at what rate and at what scale.
Based.
China’s economy is owned by the CCP
No, it’s owned by the state. Do you have a head? Or do these dumbass takes just drip out of your thoughtless neck stump?
it seems very racist to claim that the 95 million party members aren’t people
https://news.cgtn.com/event/2021/who-runs-the-cpc/index.html
beyond that, the government has a 90% to 95% approval rating. are over a billion Chinese not people?
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The CPC has the most vibrant and representative democracy of any large industrial country, therefore firms controlled by the CPC are controlled by the people.
Oh good we got federation back so I have to be exposed to dumb fucks like this again
Oh good we got federation back so
I have to be exposed to dumb fucks like this againdumb fucks will be bullied by beans, birds, and baddies.FTFY
Unfortunately being exposed to dumb fucks is the only way to build socialism. While I don’t think that Hexbear or any social media will be how socialism is built, they do offer good, low stakes practice for talking to dumb fucks in real life.
This is just debate bro perversion. Practicing your epic zingers on some dumbass wandering into a forum is never going to translate into talking to real life people
Yes it has in my experience. I don’t use “epic zingers” on real life people, but I do hear them make all the same platitudes and excuses people online make. When liberals wander in here I try to engage them in good faith until they show they’re complete morons.
Even the worst case polls, by extremely anti-china orgs and using questionable methodology, report overall satisfaction with the Chinese government within China somewhere between 50-70%.
Trump is at 43%.
Even by the most pessimistic numbers from the most rabidly anti-CPC orgs, doing everything in theory power to massage the outcome, show a majority of the Chinese people approve of their government.
As an anarchist I encourage you to Read Desert and look at China’s renewable energy production
Some follow up questions as I doubt you’ll actually read the theory.
1.) What is the political structure of the CPC? If you do not understand how a government works how can you criticize it?
2.) What is the anarchist solution for capitalist inflicted climate catastrophe?
3.) What are the actually existing non state entities that follow anarchist ideology?
4.) How can mutual aid groups or other horizontally organized groups make meaningful change against international capital?
5.) Does it not make more sense to ally with those that seek the same end result, do you know what occurs after the vanguard party establishes the dictatorship of the proletariat?
6.) Why is entryism into the vanguard to bring anarchist theory inferior to treating Marxists as worse than liberals?
The reason I ask this is to understand your point of view regarding death by 3°C+ increase and the resulting war and migration. I am not interested in arm chair debate when the global south is dieing already the time to act is yesterday and China is doing that through reforestation of deserts, building more renewable energy than the west combined and is the only country that will build a to scale fusion reactor before the aforementioned climate catastrophe
damn, that’s awesome. i wish the CCP owned my economy
i am the CEO of the CCP
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Damn, I guess the USCPee should do that and make an economy
ur a genius
Why is this lemmy.world/lemm.ee user posting from lemmy.ml??
What is lemmy.world and lemm.ee? Sorry I am new to this.
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