Ok so here in Québec we got a thing called Éthique et Culture Religieuse aka Ethic and religious culture and this year in my class we look a liberty and first class when talking about that the teacher talk about how here we can talk shit about Trudeau but in China you can not talk shit about the governement wich is false as you probably know . So if you want to look at what I will look at this year here you go https://sites.google.com/view/ecr-esrdl/2e-sec/1-liberté this link leads to the teacher’s site where you can see his power point for his class but sorry it is only in french . But for the non french speaker it pretty much says here we got lots of liberty and it is realy good wich is false and in China you got no liberty wich is also false. So what are your thought how we get trained at a young age to hate china and we get feed bigotery that gets called true facts . So thanks in advance and sorry for the English !

Edit: I looked more in depth and saw thing like : Liberalism = justice equality liberty , things that said a lot of communist place had not alot of religious liberty along with place that realy had not a lot and other bigoted stuff .

(China number 1)

  • Free PalestineA
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    55 years ago

    I explain the concept of indoctrination somewhat often, and I like to use the police as an example - because American indoc is very much centred around law enforcement. All of the concepts apply to other things, this is just one example.

    Children are impressionable. If they’re told dogs are scary, they’ll be scared of dogs. If you laugh when someone gets hurt, they’ll think pain is funny. If you say racist shit, they’ll think racist shit is normal. In the US, we’re told cops are capeless heroes who protect our liberties and protect us from evils. Every American child is subjected to the worldview that the police are never truly wrong, and the police only deal with bad people. We’re indoctrinated into believing that anyone and everyone who ends up handcuffed was a criminal, and further that even if the person didn’t do a bad thing, they’re still a bad person because “why would you be in handcuffs if you didn’t deserve it?”. The same stands for politics; we’re told politicians care, we’re told western politics is morally superior, we’re told the rich are investing in our future, etc. As children, we have no reason to be sceptical, we have no reason to fact check. In third grade we were told that we need to be thankful to the American school system, because “in China your test scores tell the state what you’re going to work as when you’re an adult, and many Chinese are taken out of school before they’re done with their education because they were chosen to be janitors” which is, of course, absolute bullshit (and then the American education system does exactly that). If you can make a person cheer on racist murderers (thin blue line), you can make them support your tyrannical bourgeois regime, it’s all indoc.

    (China number 1)

    • Raton_en_CrissOP
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      35 years ago

      I realy like your examples on children and also same thing here about the police they come to our school talk about how great it is and how good they are and then back to arresting random people for example some cops are not bad : I know a real story where a cop would just stand in the corner of the road and people would just slow down , because if they don’t they will get a fine , no one gets hurt but then his superior says : PARKER GET IN MY OFFICE ! You don’t give enough fine so what you are going to do is hide yourself and then catch the people speeding . And also here are cops hidden every where on the main roads just to catch you when your are goin 130 in a 120 zone .

      • Free PalestineA
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        35 years ago

        catch you when your are goin 130 in a 120 zone .

        someone turn this into freedom units pls, I only use metric for things under 5 metres.

        • Raton_en_CrissOP
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          35 years ago

          lol well in freedom unit it is about going 75 miles in a 80 miles zone.

  • @ComradeBeaker
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    25 years ago

    Hey Mad_Raccoon.

    I’m a fellow Canadian here and I’ve been taught the same thing here as well. We’re taught that these alleged dictatorships prevent us from having any freedom, but that is false. Anything that the news reports in Canada about China is typically skewed to cast Communism in a negative light.

    I’ll be heading to China for a vacation in about 3 months or so, I’ll update you guys with pics when I get back.

    • @GreatLeap
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      25 years ago

      You will be amazed how nice and modern China is. People are very friendly and reasonable.

  • @all4one
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    05 years ago

    When i was in high school my english teacher was a bigit to he always give extra hard questions to just the blafk kids and the easy ones to the white kids I didnt know it was also that bad inside China?