• Black AOC
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    Yet another swing on Black Agenda Report, yet another miss. I won’t deny that PSL has some reformist tendencies, but the minute he fixed his face to start talking about BAR when the articles they posted alerting the community to just who RAWM actually was under the Scooby Doo villain mask, this just reads as another article trying to relitigate his caping for the seemingly-omniphobic crackers of the Mises Caucus as ‘good for the revolution’. Like one of the comments said-- “feels like some real ‘everyone’s a revisionist but me’”, over a trojan horse movement full of libertarian crackers.

    Three strikes; gotta throw the whole man out at this point.

    • @ImOnADiet
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      Thought about tagging you, I was pretty sure I had seen some scathing take downs of Shea from you lol

    • jackissocool
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      @absentthereaper @Lemmy_Mouse he frames trying to radicalize and then recruit people on the left fringes of liberal movements (Bernie people) as allying with liberals, which is an absolute misrepresentation. Meanwhile, he does red-brown alliance shit because libertarians have the vaguest, most non-committal “anti-war” stance imaginable. Libertarians are openly hostile to working class politics - it is the fundamental element of their ideology. Meanwhile, many communists are former libs.

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        What absolutely galls me about the whole thing is that Jacqueline Luqman categorically showed how even old-guard Libertarians don’t fuck with these new Mises Caucus mfs like that(Libertarian officials have been literally quitting their jobs in protest since the party takeover), along with SEVERAL EXAMPLES of these neo-Libertarians and their varied hatreds; yet Rainer’s out here shilling their movement like his buddies who “should no longer be concerned about offending progressives or Beltway types and shouldn’t be afraid to reach out to the coalition that elected former President Donald Trump”(direct quote from a libertarian magazine’s article fluffing the Mises Caucus) like they’re not gonna try and off every single one of us that helps them.

        I’ve got nothing for Shea but contempt at this point; that motherfucker’s gonna get people killed.

      • QueerCommie
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        I’m sure there’s a few kids who just wanna free Assange that these tailists can get on their side, but we shouldn’t abandon progressives.

  • QueerCommie
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    I agree with most of the comments. It’s good to give constructive criticism but Rainer just likes to shit on everyone but his own crypto-patsoc group. He’s read his theory, but I’m not sure how much he understands the actual material conditions (not that I do much better).

  • @aleshasmiles
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    610 months ago

    Dude’s just being a contrarion at this point. Check out his shirt from PSL’s CA sister party

  • @aleshasmiles
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    610 months ago

    The way he talks about RAWM makes it sound like a damn cult. Pros and cons of it aside, Rainer is just obsessed with it to an unhealthy degree

  • @Lemmy_MouseOP
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    "The first major indication that this is what the PSL’s practice has become appeared in 2020, when Becker announced a policy of critical support for Bernie Sanders in the primary and a refusal to run the party’s candidate in swing states if Sanders won the nomination. Becker’s reasoning was that even though he recognized Sanders held reactionary stances in certain important areas, supporting him represented a net gain for the socialist movement due to Sanders supposedly being an overall progressive force. As in a force that was hurting the DNC more than he was helping it. Becker concluded: “Tactics can never be absolute, designed for all situations or last forever. On the contrary, revolutionaries must combine a rock-hard adherence to core principles with tactical suppleness to advance the movement for socialism under varying conditions and on shifting terrain. For now, the Sanders campaign represents a dynamic insurgency promoting radical social changes in the face of increasingly stiff headwinds from a criminal ruling class that fears the loosening of its absolute grip over U.S. politics and the economy. We support the insurgency against the reactionaries.”

    The problem with this calculus was that for years by that point, it had been evident Sanders was more of a help than a hindrance to the DNC. He had made a non-aggression pact with Clinton prior to running in 2016, he had tried to bring his base into the Democratic Party by endorsing Clinton, then he had furthered this project to leverage his platform in favor of reformism by promoting the new cold war with Russia. Becker either directly or implicitly recognized that Sanders had committed these offenses, yet he felt in spite of this that Sanders was worth supporting. Not because Sanders himself was a friend to revolutionary politics, but because his project supposedly represented something which brought revolution closer.

    The flaw in Becker’s argument about Sanders weakening the DNC is clear when you see what Becker didn’t want to admit: that the effect the Sanders campaigns had is one where their leader brought many ideologically developing individuals into a reformist project, then reinforced the anti-Russian biases the media had previously begun instilling these individuals. The Sanders campaigns were a net negative for the revolutionary cause, because they overall reinforced the DNC’s grip. The only ways they weakened the DNC were when many Sanders supporters broke away from his cult of personality, and came to view him as a dishonorable enabler of corruption and imperialism. By calling for PSL members to come into pro-Sanders circles and recruit them into the party, Becker was rationalizing supporting Sanders by asserting that Marxists can bring Sanders supporters to Marxism via this strategy."

    “The problems with this plan, and with the parallel reformist actions the PSL has taken since then, were 1) that backing Sanders meant backing a project which had a net negative impact for the revolutionary cause, and 2) that the PSL’s reformist tendencies made it unable to bring whatever Sanders supporters it recruited into a genuinely revolutionary organization.”

    There is a third actually that I see: He places his party in a weakened position first by telling them to support Bernie, then by telling them to infiltrate Bernie groups and explain to them why Bernie is inferior to the PSL. But he just ordered PSL to support Bernie, this is a contradictory set of orders and it places his followers in a weakened position when discussing the subject of Bernie and social democracy vs revolutionary socialism in general. A leader who seeks the revolutionary success of his party would not do this. he would seek to insulate his party members from revisionism, not make them more susceptible to it.

  • @Lemmy_MouseOP
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    "In our time and place, a better group than the liberals to form a popular front with is instead the types of libertarians who’ve come to believe fighting U.S. hegemony is the most important priority. This is because whereas the liberals have shown they’ll only ever attack the communist organizations which support Russia’s anti-fascist war, the libertarians have shown they’ll ally with these most principled kinds of communists. "

    For the anti-imperialism efforts yes as they are dedicated to their cause which aligns with ours when it comes to Russia v NATO, but not necessarily in working class organizing as this work is dependent upon class membership and not ideology.

  • @CannotSleep420
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    310 months ago

    Never trust someone who says Setrlers was wrong.

    • QueerCommie
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      610 months ago

      I disagree, I’ve heard some decent comrades like Gerald Horne criticize J. Sakai. I do think it’s good to be very skeptical of people that who are suspiciously upfront about hating the book, or use it as a way to differentiate themselves from other MLs. Critics of Settlers are fine as long as they explicitly acknowledge the large part settler colonialism plays in North American material conditions, and/or don’t completely disregard the book.

      • Black AOC
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        Critics of Settlers are fine as long as they explicitly acknowledge the large part settler colonialism plays in North American material conditions, and/or don’t completely disregard the book.

        Exactly my viewpoint. Nothing’s ever beyond criticism; but I’ve heard enough arguments from the kind of people that advocate for throwing the whole book away to know they all say the same shit, and they’re almost always rooted in settler guilt.