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@yogthos
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Hope this place keeps growing.

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It’s nice to see this place taking off. Hope it’ll grow more and more!

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That’s the real praxis!

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Bryson
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Here’s to 2000 more!

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@chad1234
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Yay! Congratulations everyone!

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Muad'Dibber
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Nice! Super pumped to see this place grow.

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Seabourne_PLA's
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a lot of accounts were made by trolls and brigaders, the actual member count is probably still somewhere near 1500 (with rounding to nearest number ending in 5 or 0.), though there’s no real way for us to know exactly how many. regardless, it’s still pretty damn cool that we are able to have a community big enough to break 2k.

And the active members are even less, because some people just sign up and then forget about it. The top post of all time has 94 upvotes and no (or very few, not sure and too lazy to check again) downvotes and was made not long ago, so we can assume that’s around the number of active members on here.

But I definitely also notice that this instance is more active then some months ago.

The influx and increased activity was due to the recent left sub bans on reddit. I’m not sure how to increase activity on here beyond just commenting as much as I can but at the end of the day, I’m still just one man.

@Hildegarde
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500 trolls? :grimacing face:

Seabourne_PLA's
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probably significantly fewer, but definitely a shittone. The trolls seem to like to make 30+ accounts per brigade, which adds up.

How do you know there were trolls?

Seabourne_PLA's
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You would have to have been blind to miss the obvious clues. Pretty much every brigade goes the same way, they post bait then they out themselves when they realize the admin team’s pretty active and zerg rush a small handful of posts with as many accounts as they can until they get bored.

How did you get the figure for 500 accounts though?

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it’s a guess, then a rounding of that guess to a whole number.

When you say ‘guess’, please don’t tell me you appropriated the Adrian Zenz method of estimation.

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You guided me here yourself Comrade & I’ve found all of you to be lively & nourishing to mind & soul for this old (slightly) worn out Commie :)

Being a thousand year old vampire is not “slightly” old in human terms, comrade.

Well said!

You admit to being a vampire?

No sir, just a mere mortal. I read an Anne Rice novel once though! LOL!

When you said we were lively and nourishing, I assumed you were treating us as fresh sources of blood to sate your thirst.

HAHAHA negative. Just encouraged.

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poggers

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and now you know :)) isn’t the world a wonderful place like that?

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@ImARabbit
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The Chapo.Chat instance is up now too. Anyone know about using federation features with them? Seems like an obvious way to get more users and content.

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idk about you but federating with a community which has mass banned MLs and trans people in the past two weeks, while defending an extremely sectarian moderation and even a mod who was a groomer, a chaser, and who drew porn with incestuous and lowkey pedophilic elements, sounds like a bad idea to me.

They are self destroying at this very moment, it’s honestly sad to see.

Are we talking the discord or the website?

Discords are shitshows. I refuse to use them and I will continue to partly attribute the problems with MTC mods and the ultra coup to discord and the type of behavior it breeds and incentivizes.

I had a dialogue with one of the admins so I’m still waiting to see. The rules as written had some problems with civility fetishism but that seems to be clearing up. More worrying is fact there is public disagreement about rules among the admins that hasn’t been resolved.

@Zaratustash
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The discord has the same moderation as the website.

It’s the same project and the same people and has the same issues.

I wouldn’t trust a single thing the admins say, in particular, I wouldn’t trust beatnik, who I and many other banned people approached in an attempt to resolve the above mentioned issues, who talked with us in a reasonable manner for 4 days, and who ended up backstabbing the shit out of the process and publicaly rehabilitating the pedo mod along with the broader sectarian tendencies in the chapo.chat / chapo discord mod team. He is a snake, he also aims to finacially profit from the chapo.chat lemmy instance, as evidenced with him setting up a patreon.

Can confirm everything Zara just said. Beatnik lead us on for days and even agreed with us in the end that he would ban the pedophile(we have screen caps). In the end, he decided to rehabilitate the pedo and instead banned everyone that stood in opposition to the mod team. Most of the banned were MLs and/or trans. His excuse at the end was that everyone would have a clean record on chapo . chat, but that didn’t happen as the mods banned us the moment they saw our names.

@nieba
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I can confirm that everything Zara says about them is accurate as far as my recollection is concerned.

On my involvement in this, the following occurred:

One of the mods maliciously misgendered me, used ableist rhetoric against me, lied about me and attempted to slander my name because I was too aggressive with my search for the truth (which I have apologized and owned up for by the way). They made light of my abuse and projected their own onto me to push their own narrative. This is also the same mod that made anti-semitic remarks against Zara so as far as I’m concerned, they deserve no forgiveness.

This mod has made an “apology” towards me which is simply a PR move made to deflect away from any wrongdoing on their part. If you’ve seen the “apology”, then you’ll know who I am by this point.

My testimony on Chapo is being proofread for publication alongside the article for Tankie News as we speak. You’ll know my complete stance on this by then.

Well outwardly they seem tolerant of MLs. I mean the megathread has links to state and rev and beatnik was pretty good about removing anti-China stuff by the time the end came for the sub. Like I’d ping them about upvoted CIA shit in threads and they’d ban the person.

I can’t comment on any process I wasn’t part of nor any accusations of pedophile stuff I didn’t witness. I don’t know what to say. I’ve long enjoyed your comments on reddit, you’re an insightful and well read comrade but also all my interactions with beatnik have been positive.

I will say it was never going to be an ML space, chapo had always been a weird collection of anarchists, dem-socs, etc. I would never personally have filled a mod team with non-MLs as in my experience MLs tend to be the most able to tolerate others without going off on some insane power trip against “muh authoritarians” or whatever but whatever. I’ll also note one of the admins makes me uneasy, the other admin with the recognizable reddit name given certain statements they’ve made and their history. They were pretty badly downvoted in their responses to a thread I made questioning the rules. The old reddit sub didn’t have entirely ML mods and worked for the most part by the end. So I guess it doesn’t surprise me. The problem would be of course censorship of ML’s, secretive bannings like on MTC when the ultra stuff started or public purgings.

As to the patreon, well hosting costs money so I can’t say I blame them for not just funding it out of their own pockets. Donations I think should be public and I’m not honestly sure how much they can hope to make off this.

Time will tell all. Looks like today already storyofrachael lost her mod status because of some dispute about a statement she made which was taken as problematic. Don’t know the story of that either. I dislike in the extreme the idea that there are going to be happenings on a discord that result in happenings on the website including drama I know nothing about.

Well if it’s any consolation, it seems like there are some pro-PRC users on there that are setting up slaughterhouses. I was quite surprised tbh.

It wasn’t hard to abuse the ignorant anti-china users there. Just annoying as some of them just didn’t want to learn and would return with the same sad talking points.

Well I mean I was more surprised that it pretty much kept the feel of the old CTH. I honestly expected it to turn into another outpost of breadtube and completeanarchy.

It could yet. We’ll see how the mods do. Liberalism is often a slow and creeping disease.

There’s still this annoying tendency for a large chunk of the user base to go “I’m not here to debate, I’m not that educated, but let’s not pretend that PRC isn’t doing anything bad” based off what seems like the remnants of liberal propaganda and a bad feeling.

They don’t understand that they have latent programming and propaganda. You can’t trust feelings or information from the media or culture without self-interrogating about where it comes from and what went into the formula to make it. Yet many people are lazy. They just don’t want to take the step that makes them to many liberal friends a genocide denier or whatever. So they hedge their bets, they are intellectual and moral cowards.

@TeethOrCoat
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What’s frustrating about all of this is that they seem to understand that they have nothing really to attack the PRC with so they desperately grasp for straws. There was one reply that basically said that PRC was fascist due to one line in the national anthem. It just shows how far those latent negative feelings are carrying them. But the shit that really gets me is when they start talking about state media. Just the worst levels of projection and latent racism in those comments are enough to drive me up a wall. Like, news flash: Just because your media is the envy of Goebbels, doesn’t mean everyone else is just as dishonest.

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@ImARabbit
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The lemmy instance the CTH people made. It has a lot of users and activity. Just went live a couple days ago I believe

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@ImARabbit
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I was on CTH and from there learned about More Tankie Chapo, and from there ended up here (after it was banned). I think that was a common procession, and some portion of CTH will always be capable of going ML. Having them as seperate instances but loosly connected is good imo, like CTH and MTC or other ML subs.

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@ImARabbit
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How did you end up here?

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@Hildegarde
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so i just checked it out, and fellas, they’ve got WAY better emotes than us: https://cadence.moe/misc/chapo-chat-emojis

Did you join and get into any arguments with anarchists?

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I mean you can go visit them yourself and see. I haven’t seen anything particularly problematic. They aren’t rabidly anti-PRC from what I’ve seen and I believe it might still be that 50/50 mentality during the final days of CTH on reddit.

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@TeethOrCoat
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Like some users would be anti-PRC, while some users would be pro-PRC.

Edit: Not so that one side completely dominates the narrative.

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I dunno. Hopefully the old CTH gave them enough mental tools to challenge the propaganda and if not, welp, what are we gonna do about it?

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