It is being ran as a council republic, with social democrats in charge (ew I know)

But everyone lives well, not exploiting any countries for it and am fairly peaceful. Only one war with norway really.

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      Denmark has stayed fucked up this playthrough.

      I don’t want to inherit their fucked-up-ness.

      They have had like 6 failed fascist revolutions and then they keep electing landlords to run the place.

      It’s very strange

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        Ah neat, I had heard of it but never actually seen what it looked like. I assume its a civ game like crusader kings or hearts of iron yeah? Is it particularly good in comparison to these two?

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          It’s similar enough that it uses the same engine and is in the same genre (real time, grand strategy etc), but its focus is on political economy to the point where its a Marxism simulator, rather than a strategic military game (HoI) or an inbreeding game (Crusader Kings).

          Uh… If you’ve never played a paradox grand strat before, prepare for a learning curve (Stellaris is probably the most accessible one).

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            or an inbreeding game (Crusader Kings).

            Excuse me I managed to become my own grandfather without even any incest there.

            Also played the Middle-Earth mod as Stalin, son of Balin and it was based.

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                Best part was when every single elf ruler except Cirdan came to me of their own will and became my vassals. Then Reunited Kingdom disunited again and the remanant too came to me. Unfortunately save got corrupted when i led something like 150000 dwarves, elves, humans and hobbits to Mordor (War of the Ring did happened but Mordor was not defeated in it so there was few follow ups).

                I also had another game where i played Shire and stomped the thrones of Arda with the ruthless hairy feet of Sackville Baggins dynasty.

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            Stellaris is definitely the most accessible one, because of how it starts you from a small baseline position rather than dropping you into a whole ongoing historical context.

            I can tell because it’s the only one I can get into.

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                  And then lost it after learning the meta smh why didn’t Stalin just make space marine divisions, CAS and airdrop paratroopers on victory points in the UK? He could also have used a civil war to purge out all the scary people if he wanted (just put your soldiers on a boat as the war fires off!)
                  I am a military genius. I give my troops new tanks and they don’t need training to use them that’s how it works also my political ideology is completely incomprehensible

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            I haven’t played grand strategy games outside of the physical boardgame known as risk.

            I’d like to try though, I think it would activate some neurons

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          It’s similar to other PDX grand strategies but i would say the harder to grasp then others. Still 3 is massive improvement in accesibility over 2 so if you like other PDX games, give it a go.

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      That would probably be the destruction of the petite bourgeois as a class.

      They went from like 20% clout to 8% and I was able to pass a lot of laws like workers protections and things of that nature

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    How were you able to get enough resources to industrialize without colonizing? I can’t imagine Sweden has that many natural resources (and presumably zero oil and rubber in particular).

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      I have zero colonies. I import oil from germany as it has a lot of it. And rubber I am pretty much always on short supply of but there is a communist country in Africa I get some from.

      I don’t really know why I am doing so well this time around. I am usually terrible at the game. lol

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        It’s possible they’ve finally gotten the AI to extract resources. That was always the old issue; you couldn’t import oil or rubber because nobody had any.

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          They allow you to invest in foreign countries now, and so you can develop the resources yourself if you want. You do need diplomatic treaties for it IIRC

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            Ah right, I don’t have the DLC so I could still only do it through protectorates, which wasn’t great. I assume those foreign countries also have to have the goods to support railways to export, which is probably a problem.

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      Ye. I bought the season pass when the game came out.

      I don’t know how well that investment strategy will work out.

      You should probably just pirate the dlc. It’s stupidly overpriced but it is a good dlc

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    so if my experience is mostly just fucking around in CK2 and a lot of Stellaris how easy would this game be for me to pick up and play? Thinking about getting it and would like to know if I drop it like a stone like HOI4 after only a few hours.

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      Based on my launch experience (some of the patches and dlc change up the game a ton):

      It’s not that hard to pick up once you figure out the UI. But also most of the game is fucking around with different inputs until you get the results you want e.g. building up enough infrastructure so you can set up paper mills so you can set up universities so you can expand the intelligentsia so you can start passing liberal laws, etc. In the late game everything becomes kinda automated and you end up just kinda sitting back and enjoying your little communist utopia.

      The biggest points of friction were all the “gamey” elements they put on top of the simulation, which end up with weird results like France balkanizing into a million different states after the Paris Commune or World War 1 starting because Brazil declares war on Argentina. But I dunno how fun a pure simulation would be so idk

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      I bounced off of other paradox games pretty quickly but this one grabbed me immediately. Like others have said, it’s a materialism simulator where your internal politics actually matter and are directly affected by how you play. It’s also a lot of microing supply and demand of various resources with local and global economies interacting. It’s less plotting to assassinate a rival leader and more plotting to tank their economy by becoming the biggest exporter of steel. There are a lot of systems going on but for me it felt really intuitive just from a basic understanding of material drivers of politics and economics

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    you’re making want to boot up another Sweden run. i keep smashing my head into the table with United States ones. i like starting minimal but still with a good foundation but with as little military conflict as possible. i was just afraid i would be fucked on resources like coal without doing imperialism which i know is often necessary in game but is still repulsive to me

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      I don’t feel like I had to engage in much imperialism other than my annexation of norway.

      In all honesty sweden is fairly self sustaining. Plentiful natural resources as well as a fairly literate population starting out which really hastens the construction of industry and for labor movements to form

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      I considered cheating many times this play through. It’s a game that is a lot of rng. And the countries make downright a-historical decisions.

      But if you stick with it… it stays the same. There needs to be a lot more added that was in viccy 2.

      Very excited for the next update tho. Hope it fixes some problems I have with the game