• vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    10 hours ago

    Having a choice over my consumption goods is ideal, that’s why I support the system that would let me democratically decide where I want the economy to focus and what goods to manufacture, instead of letting “the invisible hand” decide what’s profitable.

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    See, Americans would be perfectly fine with production being socialized, controlled and operated by the workers, as long as there’s still 10 brands of toilet paper at the store.

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      It’s like the classic Simpsons episode where homer visits the Duff brewery and being impressed seeing how they are filling up barrels of Duff, Duff Lite and Duff Dry from the same pipe.

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    Meanwhile there’s a store chain in Britain that only sells its own brand without any choice beyond that and it is incredibly fucking popular because it turns out people just like buying the thing and not caring about 12 different brands with no difference

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      You’d quickly find yourself arguing a weird and difficult position if your defense of capitalism is the quality of the pre-packaged foods. I’m sure a manifold of packagers can take tomatoes and make a version of pasta sauce you don’t think is yucky. You would also be equipped with the time, energy, and purchasing power to make your own pasta sauce if you’re so particular. You would also be part of a superstructure that doesn’t have basic life skills locked behind some sort of gender role.

      I have never felt relief while checking the nutrition info, price/oz, and ingredient list of the 6 pasta sauces for 5 minutes to see which brand is cheap but not a slurry of corn syrup. If I felt confident that the pasta sauce was basically good, it came in mild, regular, spicy, and two avant garde versions I’m sure I’d be spoiled for choice. Even better if the pasta sauce union had a forum where they would take into account what sauce heads think about the state of pasta sauce. This, of course, would be instead of the board of Kellogs and Hersheys (who are probably the same people) that control all food in the US unilaterally deciding that working class families need a subscription to saw dust laden pasta sauce on the Kellogs app in order to summon a muzzled grocery store worker to unlock the locked cabinets for a tip.

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    this argument doesn’t hold water bc China’s treat technology is so far ahead of the rest of the world that I don’t think it can be matched.

    source: just enjoyed some huang fei hong spicy peanuts mario-thumbs-up

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      14 hours ago

      huang fei hong is incredible. there’s no match. regular grocery store jiugiui huasheng (drinker’s nuts) in those little vaccuum bricks is acceptable but not the same

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        I knew i was dealing with the finest snack purveyors when i got to the bottom of the small bag and there were actual dried sichuan peppercorns and chiles. Amerikan snack jockeys won’t give you anything beyond a red 40 laced powder with “natural flavors”

  • affluent Americans pay a membership fee and drive out of their way to shop at Costco, whose entire model is based on having less brand choices, but minimum quality standards. and they love this lack of choice, because decision fatigue is real.

    it turns out having too many choices in consumer goods sucks, actually.

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      i get a lesser version of this from Aldi. for a while i was calling it grocery store socialism. just grab “the thing” and the thing is relatively inexpensive and decent. not institutional grade store brand but ok

      in and out

      then go home and cook whatever you want there are literally hundreds of variations of recipes for all one’s choice paralysis needs

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Only thing that really sucks about Aldi and Lidl is that they’re pretty anti-union (as are most grocery stores) and work their people to the bone. Totally agree on the rest - good enough groceries for cheap in a reasonably sized store that you don’t have to wander forever.

        Don’t forget to bring your bags and a quarter lol

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          yeah. i work for a different co same business. no union. they work us to the bone too mostly by keeping stores at permanent skeleton crew.

          so i do look upon the little advantages the eurostores have with some envy. chairs. little powered pallet jacks with a cargo bed. the efficient stocking.

          the grocery industry is kind of having a moment now not sure where it’s going but it’s being hollowed out bad.

          the experienced people are leaving in droves, the young ones aren’t replacing them. and everyone else is aging out

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            I worked in a union grocery warehouse and I can’t say it sounds better. They still treated us like shit, and when covid hit? Mandatory 12 hour shifts of timed physical labor. Those places churn through people and bodies like it’s nothing.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      23 hours ago

      Costco is awesome and the membership is totally worth it if you can use it. The groceries are vastly less expensive than the grocery stores around me. Like 1/3 or less sometimes.

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      I 100% do not like the lack of choice at CostCo, but I do like the prices (usually) and consistent decent quality.

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        i apologize that you do not know how to CostCo correctly. you may return to the Kroger-Publix at anytime for a life spent in the aisle deciding between 86 permutations of jelly, foreclosed dreams and sandwiches of wistful regret. or, accept the invitation to meta-cognitive executive function.

        Statistically speaking, these regular grocery stores – such as Kroger, for instance – have between 30,000 and 50,000 individual products, or stock keeping units (SKUs). A Walmart has about 100,000 SKUs. A typical Costco, on the other hand, has only about 3,800. And the increasingly popular Aldi cuts down on choice even more by carrying only about 1,400 SKUs.

        join the Kirkland Signature Cult and come home to the freedom of commitment.

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          I shop at Aldi primarily and their prices are significantly lower than CostCo. I’d go to CostCo more if they were actually cheaper.

          And just to be clear, many of the Kirkland food options are terrible. I have had enough poor tasting food items that I don’t buy much actual food there anymore. I find that my biggest reason to go to CostCo are the home goods since they are good quality and they have an excellent return policy.

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              Absolutely want choice, I would only buy staples at CostCo or Aldi. I should at higher end grocery stores for everything where I do get the options I’d like. You’re smarmy dickishness was wonderful though, keep up the good work.

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          If their food items are coming from the same factory, they really screwed something up in transit.

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    I would happily take 1 good brand of peanut butter or pasta sauce over our current situation of 1 decent brand that’s 3x the price it should be or a bunch of total dogshit that costs what a decent product should.

    The fucking store brand canned veggies are like $3. Fucking name brand Ramen is like $4 a pack.

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    Correct me if I’m wrong, but peanut butter is generally not very common in Europe. It’s usually in the “American food” section at European supermarkets.

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      One of Europe’s many failures.

      It’s so simple. You roast peanuts, grind them, add salt to taste, bam, a rich, thick, tasty spread you can put on everything, or just eat with a spoon if you’re terminally sad.

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      I’d say you’re wrong because I’ve been able to find it in most supermarkets in the countries in Europe I’ve visited. And it’s actual peanutbutter instead of peanutbutter + a bunch of sugar or weird supplements.

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        Just checked my kitchen, the store brand peanut butter from German Aldis has around 9% of additives (sugar, palm oil and salt) and it’s the only one they stock. This whole comment chain made me look up where to find 100% peanut butter and that ratio of additives unfortunately seems to be fairly common. There are brands that are 100% peanut, but for some reason these are almost exclusively sold in 1kg jars, i guess people who look for that are really into peanut butter. I mean, i am as well, and this stuff keeps good forever, so i may just go big next time i have to restock.

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        you don’t have to buy sugary versions, they’re the most popular because sugar is popular but no sugar added is right next to it at the generic supermarket I go to

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          No I’m pretty sure my wide generalisation of an entire nations consumption habits is correct

          tone clarifier

          not trying to be dismissive. Trying to admit fault in a cheeky way.

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          It’s difficult and expensive to find ones that don’t contain palm oil.

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            this is what I usually get, it’s everywhere in New England but I think it’s nationally available tho unfortunately I think whole foods is their national distributor so probably more expensive elsewhere. idk, I was just responding to the sugar thing, but it’s not worth looking through every store’s products in multiple major cities to argue the point, like yes it’s harder to find food that’s not filled with the ubiquitous bullshit, was just saying it’s not the only stuff you can find.

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              Sure. Just it’s difficult and expensive. :)