Proposals had been made to change Russia's nuclear doctrine to allow for attacking any non-nuclear state that had the participation or support of a nuclear state, Putin said.
I know this is going to be a controversial comment, but this is a necessary statement from Putin. The concept of MAD fails to exist if one side allows itself to be attacked without any response. That’s how the world ends up with a hot war between nuclear powers, and the inevitable escaltion to a nuclear exchange. Long range strikes into Russia using NATO weapons need to be avoided at all costs. NATO leaders are playing with fire, they need to be reminded that fire burns.
It doesn’t seem that controversial to me. NATO is the aggressor and has had an agressive stance toward the Russian Federation since the coup they backed brought it into existence. They’ve been playing with fire for 30 years. They can’t even feel the temperature anymore because they feel entitled to consequence free bombing campaigns. I hope Putin’s message works and gets these rabid NATO wardogs to back off
they had been aggressing before that too; they put missiles in Turkey first, originally causing the Cuban missile crisis – then refused to ratify the already-agreed-on Salt II treaty (put doi# into sci-hub), while instead Bzrezinski and Carter financed and trained terrorists and warlords who r*pe children and throw acid at schoolgirls directly to create terror and crises in Communist Afghan which bordered SSRs with which there were many exchange and education programs so that they could push the USSR into a “vietnamese quagmire,”; which eventually grew into such a catastrophic organized international-terrorist-fueled civil war scenario that after the DRA had already asked for assistance 20 times and was being rebuffed even as Soviet advisors and ambassadors were murdered with their families by extremists, the Soviets eventually decided to choose what they deemed the “least bad” option and invaded. (China also helped the muhajideen terrorists, including facilitating CIA/ISI training camps near Xinjiang, and created their own blowback for that. Post-split Chinese foreign policy was UNHINGED and SHITTY DOO DOO ASS and I’m thankful they wised up into non-intervention).
and then after all that played out and the US backed the Yeltsin coup where he abolished the parliament impeaching him and shelled the building killing hundreds, the US continued as being the ones as you said been the aggressor. It was them backing out of every missile treaty one by one, after and while and remilitarizing Europe and expanding ever eastward in a move sponsored directly by arms dealers of whom Democrats are beneficiary, being heavily patronized and vice-versa by those same death-merchants. .
The US and its EU vassal-cartel and their NATO military vanguard-of-neocolonialism for which IMF and World Bank are the preeminent institutional entities of, have always been the aggressor. It’s so bizarre western media calls Putin like he’s an unhinged megalomaniac who only knows violence when in reality he’s an incorrigible neolib who had deluded himself and others for decades the US might ever listen to their concerns and be anything different than a relentless aggressor. And Putin had been an incorrigible moderate against most of the Duma (from Communists to rightwingers) during all of this Ukraine stuff since 2014. If they had gone in in 2014 and said “absolyutna nyet” after the nazi-spearheaded coup, which many had pushed for and continued to over the years, there might have been 1000-2000 dead at most and none of this shit would have become so horrendous. But instead he only pulled the trigger on Crimea because of the Black Sea Fleet and otherwise continually blocked the Duma’s demands, and dragged feet on and undermined the DNR/LNR demands and requests, instead letting them get shot and tortured and murdered and smashed out of Odessa and Kherson and Mariupol by Nazis and suffer a bunch of awful political struggles and protracted violence and shellings; while the west NATO empire openly armed and trained more and more of the overtly anti-Russian military and fascist groups to be a battering ram for the largest most violent empire that has ever existed, the USA.
He stood as an incorrigible collaborationist moderate pushing for agreements and compromises with the west, who anyone with a brain could tell was never intending on following through with any of it BECAUSE THEY WERE THE DRIVING FORCE OF IT ALL GOING THIS WAY IN THE FIRST PLACE; while allowing not only the arming and training of the openly anti-Russian military and militias operating in Ukraine to kill Russians; but also allowing the corrupted growth of an entire generation, now today old-enough to fire a gun, have the most formative years of their upbringing guided through Azov and C-14’s state-funded Nazi “education centers,” Nazi “community organizations,” and Nazi-youth military summer-camps; that if Putin was half the comicbook villain western liberals think he is, or if he had just remembered his Soviet education — his dialectical- and historical materialist education which he undoubtedly got; he would not have held such delusions and the world wouldn’t be teetering over nuclear oblivion like this with so many pointless tens-to-hundreds-of-thousands dead and half a million wounded, и за что? зачем?
Not controversial at all, I just hope Western politicians actually take heed for once, I’d prefer not to die because of these frothing fascist NATO assholes
If NATO weapons are used in long range strikes in Russia, if would require NATO service members to input the targeting information, and NATO satellites to guide the weapons. That is why Russia would then consider these NATO countries to have carried out an attack on Russian soil in such a scenario. Ukraine is more than welcome to carry out long range strikes into Russia with its own capabilities and weapons, with it’s own military service members inputting the targeting data, in fact they have done so many times before, with success. I’m sure you can appreciate the difference between the two scenarios.
Secondly, one has to ask if the US and NATO wants to open this “Pandora’s box” in effect. If they can give Ukraine, or any other proxy, advanced long range weaponry to strike at Russia, Russia can respond in turn. There have already been talks between Russia and the Houthis/Ansarallah on the acquisition of advanced Russian anti ship supersonic cruise missiles, such missiles could present a serious threat to the US Navy in the region. There are many US military bases around the world, and many groups of people that want them gone. These groups would take Russian weapons in a heartbeat. This is before we even talk about anti satellite weaponry, nuclear testing, and any other myriad of responses. I’d prefer if we keep this “Pandora’s box” closed.
I know this is going to be a controversial comment, but this is a necessary statement from Putin. The concept of MAD fails to exist if one side allows itself to be attacked without any response. That’s how the world ends up with a hot war between nuclear powers, and the inevitable escaltion to a nuclear exchange. Long range strikes into Russia using NATO weapons need to be avoided at all costs. NATO leaders are playing with fire, they need to be reminded that fire burns.
It doesn’t seem that controversial to me. NATO is the aggressor and has had an agressive stance toward the Russian Federation since the coup they backed brought it into existence. They’ve been playing with fire for 30 years. They can’t even feel the temperature anymore because they feel entitled to consequence free bombing campaigns. I hope Putin’s message works and gets these rabid NATO wardogs to back off
they had been aggressing before that too; they put missiles in Turkey first, originally causing the Cuban missile crisis – then refused to ratify the already-agreed-on Salt II treaty (put doi# into sci-hub), while instead Bzrezinski and Carter financed and trained terrorists and warlords who r*pe children and throw acid at schoolgirls directly to create terror and crises in Communist Afghan which bordered SSRs with which there were many exchange and education programs so that they could push the USSR into a “vietnamese quagmire,”; which eventually grew into such a catastrophic organized international-terrorist-fueled civil war scenario that after the DRA had already asked for assistance 20 times and was being rebuffed even as Soviet advisors and ambassadors were murdered with their families by extremists, the Soviets eventually decided to choose what they deemed the “least bad” option and invaded. (China also helped the muhajideen terrorists, including facilitating CIA/ISI training camps near Xinjiang, and created their own blowback for that. Post-split Chinese foreign policy was UNHINGED and SHITTY DOO DOO ASS and I’m thankful they wised up into non-intervention).
and then after all that played out and the US backed the Yeltsin coup where he abolished the parliament impeaching him and shelled the building killing hundreds, the US continued as being the ones as you said been the aggressor. It was them backing out of every missile treaty one by one, after and while and remilitarizing Europe and expanding ever eastward in a move sponsored directly by arms dealers of whom Democrats are beneficiary, being heavily patronized and vice-versa by those same death-merchants. .
The US and its EU vassal-cartel and their NATO military vanguard-of-neocolonialism for which IMF and World Bank are the preeminent institutional entities of, have always been the aggressor. It’s so bizarre western media calls Putin like he’s an unhinged megalomaniac who only knows violence when in reality he’s an incorrigible neolib who had deluded himself and others for decades the US might ever listen to their concerns and be anything different than a relentless aggressor. And Putin had been an incorrigible moderate against most of the Duma (from Communists to rightwingers) during all of this Ukraine stuff since 2014. If they had gone in in 2014 and said “absolyutna nyet” after the nazi-spearheaded coup, which many had pushed for and continued to over the years, there might have been 1000-2000 dead at most and none of this shit would have become so horrendous. But instead he only pulled the trigger on Crimea because of the Black Sea Fleet and otherwise continually blocked the Duma’s demands, and dragged feet on and undermined the DNR/LNR demands and requests, instead letting them get shot and tortured and murdered and smashed out of Odessa and Kherson and Mariupol by Nazis and suffer a bunch of awful political struggles and protracted violence and shellings; while the west NATO empire openly armed and trained more and more of the overtly anti-Russian military and fascist groups to be a battering ram for the largest most violent empire that has ever existed, the USA.
He stood as an incorrigible collaborationist moderate pushing for agreements and compromises with the west, who anyone with a brain could tell was never intending on following through with any of it BECAUSE THEY WERE THE DRIVING FORCE OF IT ALL GOING THIS WAY IN THE FIRST PLACE; while allowing not only the arming and training of the openly anti-Russian military and militias operating in Ukraine to kill Russians; but also allowing the corrupted growth of an entire generation, now today old-enough to fire a gun, have the most formative years of their upbringing guided through Azov and C-14’s state-funded Nazi “education centers,” Nazi “community organizations,” and Nazi-youth military summer-camps; that if Putin was half the comicbook villain western liberals think he is, or if he had just remembered his Soviet education — his dialectical- and historical materialist education which he undoubtedly got; he would not have held such delusions and the world wouldn’t be teetering over nuclear oblivion like this with so many pointless tens-to-hundreds-of-thousands dead and half a million wounded, и за что? зачем?
Yep nato only understands one language
The truth is controversial, mostly.
Not controversial at all, I just hope Western politicians actually take heed for once, I’d prefer not to die because of these frothing fascist NATO assholes
Wait so russia is allowed to destroy all of Ukraine but gets upset once ukraine starts blowing stuff up in russia?
Yep, you got it. There is absolutely no relevant history leading up to this moment. In fact, history ended in the early 90s.
If NATO weapons are used in long range strikes in Russia, if would require NATO service members to input the targeting information, and NATO satellites to guide the weapons. That is why Russia would then consider these NATO countries to have carried out an attack on Russian soil in such a scenario. Ukraine is more than welcome to carry out long range strikes into Russia with its own capabilities and weapons, with it’s own military service members inputting the targeting data, in fact they have done so many times before, with success. I’m sure you can appreciate the difference between the two scenarios.
Secondly, one has to ask if the US and NATO wants to open this “Pandora’s box” in effect. If they can give Ukraine, or any other proxy, advanced long range weaponry to strike at Russia, Russia can respond in turn. There have already been talks between Russia and the Houthis/Ansarallah on the acquisition of advanced Russian anti ship supersonic cruise missiles, such missiles could present a serious threat to the US Navy in the region. There are many US military bases around the world, and many groups of people that want them gone. These groups would take Russian weapons in a heartbeat. This is before we even talk about anti satellite weaponry, nuclear testing, and any other myriad of responses. I’d prefer if we keep this “Pandora’s box” closed.
Shits a tinderbox yo