• @Shrike502
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      151 year ago

      Not even libs can ignore material reality forever

  • Absolute
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    281 year ago

    Only people in the west are ignorant enough to think that you can just get on a plane and move to another country just like that. Id be long gone if it were that easy

  • @Soselin
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    231 year ago

    Duo the owl is sad that you’re both stuck in this place so why not practice today

    • @Shrike502
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      101 year ago

      Reminds me of the “чемодан, вокзал” meme from some years back

      • @Anatolianin
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        41 year ago

        This was a meme? I thought it was a nazis motto

    • @cayde6ml
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      71 year ago

      That bar is incredibly low.

  • Marxism-Fennekinism
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    Yeah, none of those countries particularly want Westerners and it’s really hard to get citizenship or even a residence visa. The response to “if you like socialist countries so much why don’t you go to to one” is “I wish.”

  • @Lemmy_Mouse
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    201 year ago

    If only it were that easy, many of us would. They should put their money where their mouth is and assist, but no they know exactly what would happen if we were actually free to choose as we please. And they say the Soviet Union locked their citizens in their country. Such arrogant bullshit.

  • @lil_tank
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    191 year ago

    People’s whos country have been pillaged and wrecked by the west : 😐

    • @ComradeSalad
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      131 year ago

      People in the west living in destitute squalor where they will remain till death: 😐

  • JoeMarx 193
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    151 year ago

    I would love to hear their definition of “Western values” and “democracy”

  • @yearningforfreedom
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    111 year ago

    Don’t you have to pay something ridiculous like 20 grand in a lump sum to cease American tax collection even if you’re a citizen living in a different country

    • @knfrmity
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      61 year ago

      Not quite, but it’s quite onerous. The US taxes based on citizenship, not residency. That being said, unless you’re making well above average or have lots of property, you don’t have much tax liability. In order to renounce your US citizenship you need to already have another citizenship, make sure your tax returns are bulletproof, and pay over $2000. In any case, you have the annual stress of filing an extra tax declaration, and a lot of non-US banks won’t take you as a client because they would have too much regulatory liability.

      • @yearningforfreedom
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        51 year ago

        No idea where I got the 20 grand thing from. Maybe a typo when someone said 2. Thanks for the correction

  • @big_spoon
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    81 year ago

    “western values” almost had me there

  • @SpaceDogs
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    71 year ago

    If they’re willing to pay for the ticket and all the moving fees and immigration shit then sign me up! Also language classes!

  • @sinovictorchan
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    61 year ago

    This propaganda from the Liberals and white supremacists use the assumption that everyone have the wealth, connections, government support, and knowledge to effortlessly make a new successful live in any countries. The assumption likely come from the victim of Communism who have the wealth, connection, and support from governments of European and European emigrants to abandon their countries before the USA government and Bretton Woods Institutions destroy their old country to hinder Communist advancement. It may also use a second assumption that the living conditions of each country are determined by the local community unless the interpretation of the propaganda is that people who oppose free riding should be among the exploited people. If the proprganda may also assume that its meaning of democracy is not literal and that its Western values represent the values of the rich 1% in the European diaspora under the assumption that the Liberals know that the USA was never democratic with the rigged election. The proganda is effective on Western European diapsora countries because of the indoctrination from schools and media that everyone and every country is like the rich 1% who have the power to control the circumstances in their lives (contrary to their claim that they need intervention by privileged European ethnic groups to stop Communism and “save” poor countries).

    It does not use China as an example of countries that oppose “Western values” and democracy likely because the Liberals now dictate that China now has “Western Values” and “democracy” from the constant redefinition of words to suit their political agenda. Since the Liberals had used many conflicting definition of “Western values”, we could use the logics from the propaganda to say that the Liberals and Pax Americana Fascists should book a one-way trip to countries that they are free riding on so they can live in their ideal world with the Liberal puppet authoritarian plutocratic governments contrary to the “democracy”, “rule of law”, and “meritocracy” of rich Western European diaspora countries. The Liberals always blame Communism for the problems in Western European diaspora countries from the claim that Communism had took over their countries which will mean that Communists had created all the prospoerity in Western European diaspora countries and the Communists should stay in rich NATO countries while the Liberals should leave the rich countries.