If it happens, I really wish that cartels capture every single yankee soldier
Why would plainclothed Yankee soldiers capture uniformed Yankee soldiers?
Exactly, we need to stop this weird romanticization of drug cartels that seems to keep showing up in leftist spaces.
I swear the mere word “drugs” seems to do weird things to people. Weird echoes of anarchism or what?
That, and I think also US cultural hegemony, which means the US left ends up setting the tone for a lot of online leftist discourse. So a lot of otherwise well-informed people are softer on the whole drug question than they should be.
Yeah i mean every single socialist country analysed drugs and their cultural impact and distribution source from the class point of view and adopted harsh stance on them. Western leftists somehow infallibly handwave it to the historical trauma, which might be partially true for China but what about all the other countries which historically never had any problems with drugs before (and those that abandoned socialism inevitably now have)?
For some reason people seems to think such pretty heavy kind of escapism is good by itself.
people seems to think such pretty heavy kind of escapism is good by itself.
You could argue that’s partly just a natural, unfortunate human tendency – even the USSR, from what I’ve heard, had a fairly large problem with alcholism – but the 1960s were when this sort of thinking really seemed to become mainstream within the western left. Honestly, I think it’s just petty-bourgeois aesthetics masquerading as Marxism, with perhaps a good dose of CIA manipulation thrown in.
even the USSR, from what I’ve heard, had a fairly large problem with alcholism
Slavic countries in general had problem with alcoholism, and “problem” it’s an understatement, alcohol was the same weapon in class war here as opium in China (only more domestic and less colonizing) - unholy combination of feudalism relics, propination law, no labour laws and trucking system (with good dose of antisemitism, it’s Europe after all) made that a vile plague.
Of course building socialism helped immediately and immensely, but it was one of the issues that needed time to fix, for example Soviet prohibition in RFSFR was mostly unsuccessful. Only over decades of state spirits monopoly and antialcohol campaigns situation did improved quite radically.
I’ve never once seen leftist spaces “romanticizing” drug cartels. They’re capitalists and kulaks and trash.
“Romanticization” might be the wrong word, but you certainly run across the sentiment that the cartels really aren’t that bad. The worst instance of this I ever saw was in the comments to some ultraleft “Maoist” rag – I think it was the LLCO’s Monkey Smashes Heaven – where people were saying that Mexican drug cartels are “more revolutionary” than the DPRK.
Do you have a link to that? Sounds horrible.
The US has lost to less organised groups than fucking drug cartels time and time again. What makes them think it would be different this time?
Logistics would be easier, I think?
They have an unfathomably low opinion of Mexico.
“No one would come to their aid, nothing is stopping US tanks from just rolling into Mexico City and toppling the Mexican government”
I want to slam my head into the wall. Do these morons not remember that that’s literally what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan??? They accomplished an incredible blitzkrieg victory and seized Baghdad and Kabul…… only to get drawn into a 20 year long guerrilla campaign that they lost with bloody causalities, horrific losses of civilian life, and a waste of trillions of dollars.
I swear, nothing that happened earlier then yesterday is remembered by these geniuses.
It’s honestly wild that people still view the US military as this unstoppable bastion (until they want to talk about women and minorites anyway) after what happened in Afghanistan.
America is a military power by sheer quantity of force alone. It’s no secret, and you would have to be delusional to say that the US military is not absurdly powerful.
However, its structure and foundation is rotted by capitalism. Obsolete aging equipment is made by the lowest bidder, soldiers are poorly trained, bureaucracy and money stifles any attempt at reform in regards to tactics or doctrine, and so many more problems. So any time that the US military encounters a new problem that they can’t blow up, they get bogged down for years as the bureaucracy attempts to do anything (it ultimately does it) and the military is forced to withdraw due to the situation becoming untenable (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Panama, Cuba, etc)
Also, now imagine those conflicts with someone right across the border. When you live a life of comfort for so long, I think war just becomes some abstract sterile concept. These people have no idea how much suffering this would cause, even to them.
Well it’s blitzkrieg speed only if besieging Iraq for 13 years doesn’t count. That’s not even considering the fact that Iraq only had 3 years to rebuild after the Iran-Iraq war before it was destroyed yet again in the first Gulf war.
JOY GORDON: I think it’s 660,000 and 880,000 children under five who died as a consequence of the sanctions.
The US used as its criterion dual use, but then, if you look literally at that term “dual use” and you say, “Well, what are all the things that a civilian economy uses that a military also uses?” the answer is everything.
At one point, someone from the Pentagon came before the 661 Committee with a vial of cat litter, and he said, “This can be used to stabilize anthrax,” suggesting on that grounds that the 661 Committee should be blocking everything up to and including cat litter. So, there was, at one point, someone within the US — this process of deciding what items to block or not, he was overruled. But he argued that Iraq should not be permitted to import eggs on the grounds that the yolks of the eggs could be used as a medium in which to grow viruses, which in turn could be used to produce biological weapons. So that was the — that was very typical of the reasoning on the US side.
But the real damage was the infrastructure. The US, for example, finally allowed Iraq to import a sewage treatment plant, which was desperately needed. Three hundred thousand tons a day of untreated sewage were going into Iraq’s rivers, causing epidemics, again, of waterborne diseases, triggering increases in child mortality from dysentery. So, the US finally agreed that Iraq could import a sewage treatment plant, but then blocked the electrical generator needed to run it, on the grounds that an electrical generator was something that the military might be able to use, and therefore, to be in some sense on the safe side, it was prohibited, as well. And if you do that, if you cripple the infrastructure of a country, that’s a death sentence on a massive scale. And that’s exactly why you would have half-a-million, three-quarters of a million young children dead as a result, along with a general public health catastrophe. Seventy percent of Iraqi women were anemic. Thirty percent of Iraqi children were malnourished. And on and on and on.
No one would come to their aid
In reality, Latin America has banded together against US invasions in the past. I hope this time is no different. Russia and China should definitely send Mexico supplies, in fact they should start sending them now.
I hope Mexico can repel the US invasion, if it does take place.
What a war hawk brain does to a mofo.
“No one would come to their aid, nothing is stopping US tanks from just rolling into Mexico City and toppling the Mexican government”
FAFO
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Embargo on coca by cartels would be the most devastating one for USA. /s
Wall street collapse /s
Russia will probably be to tied down to make any meaningful contribution, but there is absolutely no way that China will not jump at the opportunity to do everything they can. They will get a chance to do what America is doing in Ukraine, letting another nation (in this case Mexico) test out their shiny new toys that they’ve been designing and building for years, while getting to strike a blow at their most dangerous enemy.
As much as I would love China to help Mexico, I wouldn’t hold my breath for such significant contribution. China is still in the process of becoming a fully developed country, improving living standards, deepening their phase of socialism, and creating and strengthening their military, technological and economic power and expanding the BRI. China would be slandered as “being in bed with the cartels and corrupt Mexican government” if they seriously militarily interfered, and given that the U.S. still has a stranglehold on the world, things would still be hard on China.
I would at most expect China to help by sending military and medical supplies and diplomatic-related missions and evacuating civillians.
YouTube is full of some of the dumbest motherfuckers in the world. But the way the site is designed, which is worse than Twitter somehow, you really can’t stand against them in any meaningful way.
Yeah, wtf is with YouTube comments sometimes, it’s literally full comment section of open nazis and NPCs, what to do about it?
I think it’s because there’s no moderation in YT comments.
i mean, latinos tend to criticize each other, mocking each other by cultural, linguistic, or gastronomical reasons, but maybe they could make an alliance against the gringos if the conditions are right, i know it, amigos
isn’t that what amlo has been trying to do since he’s been in office?
Yea some Republican congressman is calling for a war on cartels (soooo isn’t that just the war on drugs+war on terror combined into one??) and as we’ve seen the US Empire’s previous wars on vague concepts, I gotta put my money on the cartels winning, tho they will probably take a few financial hits and shakedowns. Kinda funny to me that the US Empire is doing the old classic of allying with someone (cartels and drug runners in the 80s) and betraying them and calling them the ultimate evil in the world. The writers room for the USA show need some new hires, these storylines are old, played out and just plain predictable.
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Knowing what he’s dealing with, it wouldn’t surprise me if congressman disappeared and a video of him skinned alive (or something similar in that category)popped up on the internet…
I should have corrected myself, there are a number of Republican politicians that want “war” on cartels, Crenshaw, Lindsey Graham, Mike Waltz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and some loser named James Comer, he barely even votes on shit and probably wanted people to remember his name by making some bold claim like saying Trump should have bombed Mexico to rid North America of Fentanyl and Meth labs. Besides the obvious racist and xenophobic rhetoric, it ignores the fundamental hole in that solution, that there are PLENTY of labs in the US too. And on top of that, it ignores the fact that if society worked better for the average person they wouldn’t even think about doing meth or fentanyl
‘Meth labs’
Who’s cooking?
Walt and Jesse in the lab cookin’ up that blue
