It took me three days of nonstop writing. I thought it was gonna be an easy one, but nope. There’s just too much to say.

Anyway, enjoy. If you need to diet (either weight gain or weight loss) or want to get into fitness, this is the guide you need. No chuds guarantee.

  • @sudojonz
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    61 year ago

    So far I only read the section about fat, carbs, proteins but I like what I am reading so far! Looking forward to reading the rest soon. Thank you comrade!

  • Muad'DibberA
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    51 year ago

    This is legit comrade, o7 for your labor. Will take me a bit to get through it.

  • @201dberg
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    So far pretty good. I appreciate the labelling of saturated fats not being inherently bad because that whole push has been by the seed oil industry started by crisco decades ago. I do however disagree with the statement of prioritizing unsaturated fats over saturated fats and I will go into some detail here. Saturated fats are the bodies natural fat storage for fuel. People have, for thousands of years, primarily gotten all their fat as saturated fats. With unsaturated fats being in extremely low amounts from foraged vegetables or in small amounts from other animals they eat and fish. When you eat a ton of carbs and you body turns them into fats for storage they are stored in the form of saturated fats.

    Spoilering this massive wall of text I am about to drop.

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    Unsaturated fats on the other hand, while extremely important for the bodies natural function, are more detrimental when intake is too high. Basically these fats are primarily used for things like hormone synthesis and other intricate functions. Because of this the bodies fat storage cells, unlike with saturated fats, does not have an “off switch” for these fats. So in a normal functioning body, too much fat will cause a cell to go " ok no more" and send the fat elsewhere to be distributed across the body. However if the fat being stored is an unsaturated fat the fat cell will continue to grow and grow. Rejecting all other forms of energy for an overabundance of a type of fat it is also programmed not to use for fuel over other sources. And since these fats aren’t used as a primary source of fuel they stick around longer. Not saying you can’t burn them but the body sees them as vital and will avoid it if it can.

    Then there’s the issue of the body using the fats to build cells. All cells need fat to create their structures. You WANT saturated fat for this. Primarily because of it’s rigid shape and lack of oxidizable double bonds. Like you state in the writeup concerning omega 3 supplements, oxidized unsaturated fats are basically “dead” but it’s far worse than that. Unsaturated fats are PRONE to oxidation. This happens to the fats in the body as well. This is why antioxidants are so good for you and why “free radicals” are very bad. Free radicals oxidize unsaturated fats. If your cells are made of unsaturated fats they are in danger of oxidation which will harm and/or kill the cell. Hence why “free radicals” contribute to aging and antioxidants are seen as protective against aging. (This is impacting DNA as well) So now imagine what having a high intake of unsaturated fats does. It overloads the fats storage cells far past their capacity and then the use of the fats for structure leads to cells that are not only less rigid, something cells need for shape and function, but prone to oxidative stresses.

    That being said, having too much of any fat is bad but being that the body is designed to primarily utilize saturated fats for fuel and cell structure you are far more capable of burning off an excess of that then unsaturated fats. Neither are bad. Both have an extremely important role in your body. But it is the ratios of those fats and overconsumption that you have to watch out for.

    Going further into this, again, as you said about the omega 3 supplements being highly processed and getting oxidized… All processed seed oils, canola, corn, soy, grape seed, flax, undergo extreme processing similar to the processing that makes those omega 3 oils oxidized. The oils are heated repeatedly during this process, solvents used in extraction of even more oils and to “clean” them to remove the rancid smells that are produced from the process. All these things cause oxidation of the unsaturated fats. Then they are stored in clear plastic that does nothing to block any UV light, another thing that causes oxidation of the unsaturated bonds. By the time these oils hit the shelves they have been stripped of any protective antioxidants from the original seeds and turned into harmful, oxidated oils. They should be avoided at all costs.

    That’s not to say all vegetables oils are bad though. Quite the contrary. Olive oil, avocado oil, palm oil, coconut oil, are all cold pressed oils and very healthy. Even though all of those, save the coconut oil, are higher in unsaturated fats you also aren’t chugging it down cause you typically don’t fry things in those. Of course, if you are health conscious you should really avoid fried foods anyway. Additionally, being unprocessed, all these oils will have a great deal of their natural antioxidants I’m them. Further adding to their health benefits. Peanut oil is a different story. It CAN be cold pressed and ok for you similar to these others but it’s never that easy. Many places (especially western manufactures) now will, in addition to pressing the peanuts, will also further process them similar to the seed oils which again, ruins the unsaturated fats.

    I am not trying to come off saying avoid all unsaturated fats and chug a bunch of saturated fats. Only trying to bring to light misconceptions that were introduced nearly a century ago but seed oil manufacturers. Prior to the rise of crisco heat disease was so rare that the American heart association was all but pointless. A small, barely existent entity. Until it got a massive influx of money from the company that created crisco for the express purpose of promoting that product and demonizing saturated fats.


    I do have sources for this information I will track them down and link. I have somewhere some videos someone made that are one of the better in dept doves into it. Even if I kind of hate the narrator and think he’s kind of a douche I can’t deny the logic and the research that went into it.

    Also I type this all out on my phone and have fat finger so I apologize for what I’m sure amounts to a good number of misspellings. lol

    • @201dberg
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      Some of my sources. Not all. Still need to refresh myself on everything it’s been a long time since I had looked through all this. lol

      Again spoiler for wall o text.

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      So here we go These have good detail of the history of the seed oil industry and how the original “heart health hypothesis” that labeled saturated fats bad, unsaturated fats good, was doctored with a large portion of results and testing being eliminated for not confirming to the wants for the authors. I link videos primarily from one channel because of all the sources in the video descriptions. Feel free to ignore the videos if you want the sources. It’s easier to link to half a dozen videos than the dozens of studies, books, and other videos. lol. I honestly am not even a big fan of the guy making these. He has some dumbass takes on other shit but generally his data on nutrition is generally a good. Some of the sources also are by people With dumbass takes but again, the data is what I’m concerned with.

      https://drjasonfung.medium.com/the-shocking-origin-of-vegetable-oil-garbage-1c2ce14ae513 This is one of the sources for the video here

      https://youtu.be/OGLwGOvvWeg

      Further dive into how the studies where adulterated.

      https://youtu.be/Ktw5ticSJJw Again, sources in the video.

      https://youtu.be/5b0devs4J3s Further discusses the corruption in the food and nutrition societies. Goes beyond just the oils but into sugar, and other big players.

      More into the health impact of oxidized oils. https://youtu.be/-T79dJI3xIw

      In fact. I disagree with his conjecture that it is the omega 6s that cause the issues in general and that almost all our exposure to high omega 6 oils is from processed seed oils. Oxidative stress and free radicals are also inflammatory by nature. Moreso that what the omega 6s would cause. I believe if you had a high omega 6 ratio but of unprocessed oils, natural oils that had their original nutrients and antioxidants with them there would be almost no major negative impact on the body when compared to any processed oil.

      https://youtu.be/qBp9Gbk8suM This goes more into the sugar industry shifting blame onto the saturated fats. This one’s not the same guy. Links to the paper he’s discussing in the description as well.

      I’m having trouble finding where I had seen the issue with the unsaturated fats bypassing the fat cells normal ability to reject fat and energy. Will update when I find more.

  • DankZedong MA
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    Decided to start tracking macros in an app today. I always sort of new what I ate but it’s good to have precise insight for now.

  • @201dberg
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    I added sources to my earlier comment.

    I also wanted to share my own experience with BCAAs. For a recovery I wouldn’t use them. You are correct that full, whole proteins are where it’s at no argument there. But, and this is me personally, I have found making a drink supplement of them at the start of my workout, and drinking it throughout, significantly impacted my performance during the routine. My recovery did not change much. This was only something I noticed for my energy levels staying more elevated by the end of the session which I had previously been having trouble keeping up. The mix I use doesn’t have any caffeine or anything like that. BUT it does also have electrolytes of potassium and sodium as well as citric acid. That being said I already add those electrolytes to my water when I work out anyway. So I am actually getting a double dose and I’m sure that increased amount has an impact.

    Again though, this all my own personal experience. I have not done a whole lot of deep research into this like I have the oils.

    Additionally I have done session both while not on my daily fasting and while staying fasted until the end of the workout. What I had noticed was, not being fasted I was more sluggish. My body and mind was way more eager to end the session and just take it easy. Like there was an overall lack of desire both physical and mental. While being fasted I was much more focused and more easily jumped into the session and was more driven to complete it. In both cases I felt fatigue by the later sets however the addition of the BCAA drink seemed to have the greatest impact on me when I was in the fasted state.

    From a purely hypothesis state of mind my thoughts are, perhaps the BCAAs help get a boost of fuel to my muscles while not being enough to kick my out of the fasted state which helps me focus and maintain motivation? Again I have nothing to back this up. This is simply an observation I wished to make. Idk if anyone else cares about this kind of crap but I get kind of obsessed with figuring out how and why things impact my body. lol. I love analyzing my bodies reaction to different things like this. Mostly I think it’s be ause I’m crazy though. Lmao