So I’ve been in the rabbit hole of android privacy for some time, last I joined the GrapheneOS community but let’s just say that they doesn’t have a “healthy” opinion about other projects like f-droid.
So I am looking for generic communities that focus on mobile privacy that doesn’t have drama or toxicity or “extreme opinions”. Any suggestions? I prefer chat based communities like matrix or simplex instead of like reddit or lemmy.
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What does a healthy opinion of F-Droid look like though? Lol
What’s an unhealthy opinion of f-droid? Is something wrong with it? Genuine question. I’m out of the loop.
F-droid acts as a trust for all the apps you download through it, which means if F droid is hacked, hackers can push fake update to all the apps. It is an issue, but not the biggest concern of average joe. Although F-droid should take it pretty seriously.
But I think hating on them is not the solution…
Oh. Same is true for Google Play and literally every self updating app/program on the planet lmao.
They have actually made a bunch of security enhancements to there systems and processes. You can look at the blog if you are curious.
I would like to not delve into infighting and would like to avoid it
As you wish. But maybe open up to some new perspectives.
As long as it doesn’t get dissolved into pure hate.
So I am looking for generic communities that focus on mobile privacy that doesn’t have drama or toxicity or “extreme opinions”. Any suggestions?
the excessive and constant noise a limited number of people is making, their rage when it’s not pure hatred against whatever they don’t like or whoever they don’t agree with, is the main reason why, a Linux user worrying about privacy myself, I decided to stop wasting my time online with any such ‘tech’ communities. It has become almost impossible to have an open and calm discussion on any topic without someone jumping in and barking like some crazy dog — because reasons.
No matter what their reasons or motivations are to be angry or hateful, I have zero desire to listen to endless rabid barking. There isn’t much to learn in that, at least when you’re not a dog.
And I have no time for that either: we only have a limited amount of time to live before the game is over and there is no extra life to get, no second chance. I realized that a few years ago and decided I would not waste a second more of my time dealing with those constantly frustrated or hateful people. In tech or elsewhere.
Tech-wise, I have had much more stimulating and enriching discussions in communities that are not tech (or privacy or security or Linux)-related but communities where tech can still be discussed and debated (including by very competent tech people) just always in a broader discussion that don’t focus on tech itself.
It’s sad that so many good projects is plagued by this crap. Like did we forget about the whole “respect other people’s opinions” thing?
Like did we forget about the whole “respect other people’s opinions” thing?
I cant say if we have forgotten it or not, but it sure looks like we don’t want to hear about it very much.
It’s all turned binary (pun intended): you’re with us or you’re against us, either you’re good or you’re evil (and then, you deserve to be eliminated). Which is as saddening as it is is… stupid.
If you’re interested, I’d be open to DMing about privacy and security. I would like to learn more about your situation and your threat model and what measures you’ve taken
If you’re interested, I’d be open to DMing about privacy and security. I would like to learn more about your situation and your threat model and what measures you’ve taken
Not sure to understand your question, my situation is nothing special. I’m a dude that cares about what I consider a fundamental human right, as essential as is/should be the freedom of expression: privacy. A right I certainly don’t want to see thrown away for a few already very rich people to be able to make even more crazy profit, nor in the name of convenience (including my own) not even for my own ‘security’ or well-being, for that matter.
Is there anything in what I wrote that made you believe my situation was somewhat special?
As for the ‘measures’ I have taken. I try to be careful & lucid when I use any app/services/device and I do as much as I possibly can without using them at all, aka offline and the analog or IRL way, which is not that hard for me as I often work much better using analog tools.
If you have any specific question feel free to PM me, I can’t promise you an answer but at the very least I will let you know I’ve read it and can’t answer it.
There are no non-toxic spaces these days.
Lemmy isn’t bad although there are some far left
Can y9u share some?
They said there are none
Oh shit I missed the “no”
Fuck that’s sad…
I run graphene on several devices and recommend it. I do not participate in much discussion about it through. You can just use the best we got in android and be fine with that.
Discussion forums are the same all over I think. I don’t see much difference around graphene here on Lemmy or XDA forum.
For the love of God do not ever go to their community in any case… If you need technical help literally ask anywhere else… If you go there, you’ll end up hating GOS you’ve been warned
Was this recently? It was bad under micay but thought it had improved by now.
Isn’t he still pretty involved in the project? I only followed the Rossmann story for a bit until I encountered random attacks on microg in the issue for Mozilla Location Services shutting down.
There’s also this random attack on alternative location services by GrapheneOS.
https://grapheneos.org/articles/positon-location-service(Some surrounding discussion on the article can be found here (microg issue for MLS retiring))
Overall, Graphene does not seem like a friendly project in my opinion.
Still not great…
I’ve always got help, and the moderators are really nice.
‘Just trust me bro’ hardware, Google Play Integrity API, banned and GrapheneOS is still simping it.
Running away doesn’t fix this.
At least they could like not be paranoid and hostile…
You can just join XDA. TBH if Graphene is not your thing and Lineage OS isn’t supported on your device, you can just unlock the bootloader and install the patched kernel using KernelSU which will give you the control you want.
what about DivestOS?
Device support?
Best supported devices: https://divestos.org/pages/devices_golden
All devices supported: https://divestos.org/pages/devices
Most of them older devices. This is not the fault of the Lineage OS devs, but companies just aren’t allowing it anymore. So if you have a new device, Lineage OS is not an option, if you’re in the US
It’s based on Lineage, so lots
Most of them older devices. This is not the fault of the Lineage OS devs, but companies just aren’t allowing it anymore. So if you have a new device, Lineage OS is not an option, if you’re in the US
Yeah, I want all my devices to run LineageOS and that limits me from lots of options to maybe 2 or 3 modern ones at reasonablish price points.
Thankfully I don’t live in the US, it would be even more difficult as you said.
The dev has ties with the Graphene OS project and has had some controversy. Not to say that it is bad but you should be aware of the person who controls it.
XDA has a chat?
They have a forum
Any good tutorial??
Read KernelSU docs
Doesn’t tick all the boxes as it is on Lemmy, but feel free to join us at !degoogle@lemmy.ml
I’ve learned a lot about privacy/security from xmpp chatrooms, especially the room for the conversations client and the divestos chatroom. They both are kind of support chatrooms for the chat client/ android rom but privacy is often a topic and the programmers/ rom maintainers are also present and very knowledgeable. https://search.jabber.network/rooms/1
Be prepared to be assaulted by the Graphene OS community
My suggestion would be the Calyx OS community or even the F-droid forms.
iodéOS has a Matrix server and the people there are pretty friendly, but discussion is mostly focused on bug reporting and features among beta testers and developers. Probably not what you’re after but just throwing it out there anyway.
