• @cfgaussian
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    It’s not so much a “peace plan” as a set of general principles. Not really something actionable since some of the points directly conflict with each other particularly where the Ukraine conflict is concerned. Russia cannot ensure its national security without violating Ukraine’s sovereignty so long as Ukraine remains a Nazi puppet state of an aggressive NATO hell-bent on destabilizing and destroying Russia. Also restoring Ukraine’s territory at this point will violate Russia’s sovereignty and the self-determination of all the people who voted in referendums to join Russia.

    Also there is the small matter of the US and the rabid russophobes in Eastern Europe simply having no interest in peace or taking Russia’s security concerns seriously… They are still clinging to their dream of defeating Russia and the only way to get them to see that that is not happening is a Russian victory.

    So yeah, this all sounds nice and is exactly what China should be saying at this moment to show the world that they are the rational and responsible adults in a situation where the West have turned into unhinged warmongers, but they know and really everyone else knows too that nothing will come of this.

    • @EuthanatosMurderhobo
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      Russia cannot ensure its national security without violating Ukraine’s sovereignty so long as Ukraine remains a Nazi puppet state of an aggressive NATO hell-bent on destabilizing and destroying Russia.

      You mean, Russia cannot violate something that isn’t there?)

      But yeah, what you said. It’s not a plan, but it’s a good statement for Chinese MoFA’s to make.

  • 陆船。
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    This is fine and the largely captures the points of the Astana declaration and the principle of indivisible security. They’ve been saying stuff like this since before the war even.

    Negotiations got really close last year in Türkiye with the Ukrainian side willing to begin with negotiations from the position that Crimea is gone forever and Minsk II was jebait. One bojo visit to Kiev later and Kuleba is running his mouth on Twitter on how they will kill 1 million Russians per cubic diamond hour to “liberate” Crimea and here we are 1 year later…